Need reviews and advice on web and data control tools and vendors

Discussion in 'ASP .Net Datagrid Control' started by Tim Meagher, Jun 16, 2005.

  1. Tim Meagher

    Tim Meagher Guest

    In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite of
    tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and other
    similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good documentation
    and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.

    Recommendations, URLs for reference?
     
    Tim Meagher, Jun 16, 2005
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    Karl Seguin Guest

    Tim:
    Infragistics sells NetAdvantage which comes with most/all of these things
    and are pretty robust and capable:
    http://www.infragistics.com/products/NetAdvantage/WebForms/Default.aspx

    Depending on your budget, I'd look around and look for free alternatives.

    For example, you can use skmMenu for your menus:
    http://skmmenu.com/menu/

    Free ASP Treeview:
    http://www.obout.com/t2/download.aspx

    and google can help you out with the rest...

    Karl

    --
    MY ASP.Net tutorials
    http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is annoying)
    http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
    come!)


    "Tim Meagher" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite of
    > tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and
    > other
    > similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good
    > documentation
    > and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    > 2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    > controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.
    >
    > Recommendations, URLs for reference?
    >
    >
     
    Karl Seguin, Jun 16, 2005
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    Jeremy S Guest

    I would strongly advise to *avoid* Infragistics for Web Forms controls
    (their Windows Forms controls, however are great).

    Highly recommended: http://www.componentart.com/home.aspx

    -HTH


    "Tim Meagher" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite of
    > tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and
    > other
    > similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good
    > documentation
    > and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    > 2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    > controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.
    >
    > Recommendations, URLs for reference?
    >
    >
     
    Jeremy S, Jun 16, 2005
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  4. Tim,

    Warning on Third party vendors -- they can take you down an ugly path of
    lots of money, very buggy software, and seem to have little or no regard to
    upgrading the components and how those upgrades will break existing code
    (i.e. no compatibility path). Some of the components can be VERY slow also.
    And, their support is terrible -- often out sourced to countries that don't
    provide good English speaking individuals.

    I'd wait for VS 2005 and .NET v2.0 and hope MS provide more robust controls
    and fix a lot of bugs in the process. Of course if MS don't provide a easy
    upgrade path, then we'll all be screwed anyway. But if MS do that, it will
    be the final straw for me.

    Rob.

    "Tim Meagher" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite of
    > tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and
    > other
    > similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good
    > documentation
    > and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    > 2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    > controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.
    >
    > Recommendations, URLs for reference?
    >
    >
     
    Rob R. Ainscough, Jun 16, 2005
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  5. Tim Meagher

    Jeremy S Guest

    You sound like someone who has actually implemented (or attempted to
    implement) Infragistics!



    "Rob R. Ainscough" <> wrote in message
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    > Tim,
    >
    > Warning on Third party vendors -- they can take you down an ugly path of
    > lots of money, very buggy software, and seem to have little or no regard
    > to upgrading the components and how those upgrades will break existing
    > code (i.e. no compatibility path). Some of the components can be VERY
    > slow also. And, their support is terrible -- often out sourced to
    > countries that don't provide good English speaking individuals.
    >
    > I'd wait for VS 2005 and .NET v2.0 and hope MS provide more robust
    > controls and fix a lot of bugs in the process. Of course if MS don't
    > provide a easy upgrade path, then we'll all be screwed anyway. But if MS
    > do that, it will be the final straw for me.
    >
    > Rob.
    >
    > "Tim Meagher" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite
    >> of
    >> tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and
    >> other
    >> similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good
    >> documentation
    >> and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    >> 2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    >> controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.
    >>
    >> Recommendations, URLs for reference?
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Jeremy S, Jun 16, 2005
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  6. Karl,

    Thanks for the obout.com link. This was a wonderful resource! Another
    great resource for free controls would be:

    http://www.eworldui.net/

    I hope this helps!
    Aaron
     
    Aaron Corcoran, Jun 16, 2005
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  7. Someone else suggested it, but I have to back ComponentArt as well
    (www.componentart.com).

    Their new controls are nice and much upgraded. They have a bit of a
    confuzing (though powerful) skinning method which works pretty well.
    Overall we have had pretty good luck with their tree & menu so far.

    My favorite menu guys, even over component art, are Coalesys
    (http://www.coalesys.com/home/). The menu is better in many instances,
    especially since it just gives you hooks to attach the menu to any
    standard HTML object. Very convenient if you need to have custom
    menus, flyouts, etc, where ComponentArt creates the menu iteslf for
    you.

    So... take a look at componentart & coalesys. The only two I have
    found so far that were any good (have dev/source lic for C-Art & dev
    for coalesys for asp).

    -Andrew Backer
     
    Andrew Backer, Jun 16, 2005
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  8. I'm biased because they're one of my clients but most people agree that
    ComponentArt has great controls:

    http://www.componentart.com/home.aspx


    "Tim Meagher" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite of
    > tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and
    > other
    > similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good
    > documentation
    > and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    > 2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    > controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.
    >
    > Recommendations, URLs for reference?
    >
    >
     
    Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP], Jun 17, 2005
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  9. Tim Meagher

    Karl Seguin Guest

    Ken,
    I certainly agree. Very slick controls....afaik though they don't offer
    everything that was asked for (grids)

    Karl

    --
    MY ASP.Net tutorials
    http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is annoying)
    http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
    come!)


    "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <> wrote in message
    news:%...
    > I'm biased because they're one of my clients but most people agree that
    > ComponentArt has great controls:
    >
    > http://www.componentart.com/home.aspx
    >
    >
    > "Tim Meagher" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> In order to reduce my development time, I would like to acquire a suite
    >> of
    >> tools for ASP.Net development that provide grid, treeview, menus, and
    >> other
    >> similar web controls. I would like a tool that provides good
    >> documentation
    >> and that is fairly intuitive to use, is robust and gearing up for ASP.Net
    >> 2.0, and is not buggy. I prefer tohave access to source code, but of the
    >> controls work well enough than that may not be an issue.
    >>
    >> Recommendations, URLs for reference?
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
     
    Karl Seguin, Jun 18, 2005
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  10. Tim Meagher

    Elton Bukri Guest

    You could take a look at Telerik (www.telerik.com). Their package
    includes all the controls you mentioned and some other nice goodies.

    We use Telerik controls to replace the Infragistics suite as Telerik
    products perform much better (especially the grid control). In general,
    the products are very easy to work with and have been written very well.
    We are working on a .NET 2.0 project and so far we have not had any
    major issues apart from some issues with Themes as the guys provide
    their own Theming mechanism for .NET 1.x and this mechanism doesn't like
    the one that's built into .NET 2.0. With the help of their support folks
    we quickly found a solution.

    The Telerik documentation is relatively comprehensive compared to others
    albeit the fact that I have contacted them on several occasions to
    improve some of their code examples.

    One thing I should mention is the excellent support the folks there have
    provided us. They are one of the most responsive companies I have worked
    with. I don't know how big of an issue this is for you, but it's nice to
    work with a company that values your input.

    There are also other good vendors, but they don't provide the whole
    package of asp.net controls you need.

    You could take a look at the following companies:
    www.componentart.com
    www.richercomponents.com
    www.activeup.com
    www.devexpress.com
    www.datadynamics.com
    www.powerupasp.net

    I hope this helps.

    - Elton

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    Elton Bukri, Jun 22, 2005
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