Now take a look...

[Mark Parnell]

http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)

Well, the CSS validates, which is good. A couple of warnings there -
worth fixing up.

The HTML is not valid though, with 16 errors. All fairly trivial to fix
though.

Given that it is a new site, it really should be written using the
Strict doctype, not Transitional. Replace all those presentational
elements and attributes with CSS and make it Strict.

I can't see any need for tables on that page.

What's the applet for? It doesn't show up at all in Firefox.

 

[Ed Jay]

Hello folks:

Well, I have considered all the advice that has been given to me over the
course of the last few months and I broke down and started learning CSS
coding. Take a look at the following website and let me know what, if
anything, can be improved (codewise) here...

http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)

I'm just learning this stuff too.

When I use:
<center><div class=xx>stuff</div></center>
and try to validate the page, I get an error message telling me that
<center> is deprecated. But, when I validated your page, I only got the
error that you had no ending tag for your <center><div>...

Where have I gone wrong?

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

 

[Els]

When I use:
<center><div class=xx>stuff</div></center>
and try to validate the page, I get an error message telling me that
<center> is deprecated. But, when I validated your page, I only got the
error that you had no ending tag for your <center><div>...

Where have I gone wrong?

You haven't gone wrong.
The OP is just using a transitional doctype. That doctype is meant for
documents which are "in transition". It allows for deprecated
elements, to make it easier on the person who is editing the page I
guess
New documents are best written in Strict, which doesn't allow for
deprecated heritage from old webpages.

 

[Ed Jay]

You haven't gone wrong.
The OP is just using a transitional doctype. That doctype is meant for
documents which are "in transition". It allows for deprecated
elements, to make it easier on the person who is editing the page I
guess
New documents are best written in Strict, which doesn't allow for
deprecated heritage from old webpages.

Thanks, although I don't know if I feel better.

I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

 

[Mark Parnell]

I'm having a heck of a time figuring out how to center text or boxes.

http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/

 

[Montgomery BOO...URNS]

Hello folks:

Well, I have considered all the advice that has been given to me over the
course of the last few months and I broke down and started learning CSS
coding. Take a look at the following website and let me know what, if
anything, can be improved (codewise) here...

http://www.shobers.com/home.htm (still under construction)

Thanks for all of your help. It's been greatly appreciated.

DC

 

[Ed Jay]

http://dorward.me.uk/www/centre/

Thanks, Mark. That was a great help.

Allow me to impose and ask another question. I'm trying to center a box
with text aligned both left and right. Example:
Test1 Test2

I defined a simple box as:

..menu {
border: 1px solid black;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 300px;
}

The code on my page is:

<div class=menu style="text-align: left;">Test1<div
style="text-align:right;">Test2</div></div>

The result is:

Test1
Test2

Why?

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

 

[Els]

Thanks, Mark. That was a great help.

Allow me to impose and ask another question. I'm trying to center a box
with text aligned both left and right. Example:
Test1 Test2

I defined a simple box as:

.menu {
border: 1px solid black;
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 300px;
}

The code on my page is:

<div class=menu style="text-align: left;">Test1<div
style="text-align:right;">Test2</div></div>

The result is:

Test1
Test2

Why?

Because ...
Well, add a visible border to each div, and you will know

To make it work, you should float the first one left, and give it 50%
width (probably a bit less to make it work in other browsers too), and
give the second one a left margin of 50%.

 

[Ed Jay]

Because ...
Well, add a visible border to each div, and you will know

To make it work, you should float the first one left, and give it 50%
width (probably a bit less to make it work in other browsers too), and
give the second one a left margin of 50%.

Thank you again. I'm going to have to translate what you've said into code
I understand, but it's 1:30AM and I can't focus my eyes any longer. It's
obviously past my bedtime.

Thank you.

Ed Jay (remove M to respond)

 

[Els]

Thank you again. I'm going to have to translate what you've said into code
I understand, but it's 1:30AM and I can't focus my eyes any longer. It's
obviously past my bedtime.

You're in Australia? (or Japan?) Go to bed! The European crew will
take over from here, your turn will come again ;-)

Sleep well

 

[rf]

You're in Australia? (or Japan?) Go to bed! The European crew will
take over from here, your turn will come again ;-)

What? The wife would say "What the bloody hell do you think YOU are up to?".

It's only 7pm here in .au. We aren't even on to our second rum&coke.

Sleep well

In a couple or 5 hours, yes

Cheers
Richard.

 

[Els]

What? The wife would say "What the bloody hell do you think YOU are up to?".

What, she won't let you go to bed early when you're tired? ;-)

It's only 7pm here in .au. We aren't even on to our second rum&coke.


In a couple or 5 hours, yes

Okay, so I was too lazy to look up Day Light Saving zones for
Australia to see if 9 hours difference with me would be far away
enough to be Australia...
Thinking again: it's summer here, so it must be winter where you are,
so the Day Light Saving adds two hours to the 'normal' time
difference, instead of subtracting them.

/looks up timetable with DLS times...

Right! Phoenix, Arizona is closer to the 9 hrs difference...
<thought dawning on me>
I guess I also was calculating in the wrong direction - Aussiland is
ahead of us, not behind us.. (which doesn't make matter when the time
difference is 12 hours, but it does when it is 9 hours <g>)
</>

 

[rf]

to?".

What, she won't let you go to bed early when you're tired? ;-)

Er, she was *in* it at the time, having a power nap before dinner.

Thinking again: it's summer here, so it must be winter where you are,

Not that you would notice. A balmy 22 degrees here today.

I guess I also was calculating in the wrong direction - Aussiland is
ahead of us, not behind us..

Australia is ahead of Everybody (except .nz of course but they don't count
)

Makes it easier for us. Everybody else is behind. .uk 10 (UTC that is), .nl
9 .us somewhere between 18 and infinity...

Cheers
Richard.

 

[Els]

Er, she was *in* it at the time, having a power nap before dinner.

LOL - that explains her reaction perfectly, yes

Not that you would notice. A balmy 22 degrees here today.

I wish we had winters like that :\

[time zones]

Everybody else is behind. .uk 10 (UTC that is), .nl 9

See? I wan't wrong about the 9 hours, just about the direction

.us somewhere between 18 and infinity...

Makes me wonder: how come the USA haven't managed to turn the tables
and make themselves be first timewise...

 

[Els]

Don't ask about the summer temperature :-D

Why not? I don't mind heat.

 

[Edwin van der Vaart]

Why not? I don't mind heat.

In the northern/southern part is the it about 30 degrees.
In central it's about 40 degrees in the shadow (Cooper pedy).

 

[rf]

In the northern/southern part is the it about 30 degrees.
In central it's about 40 degrees in the shadow (Cooper pedy).

But... nobody goes out there

Here in Sydney its usually 30. Rarely above 40, well, 45.

Anyway, in the outback a 45 degree day is not so bad as it is usually 0%
humidity. Not like on the coast where a 38 degree 90% humiditiy day calls
for a pause in work and drinks all round...

Cheers
Richard.

 

[Els]

a pause in work and drinks all round...

I don't mind those either ;-)

 

[Edwin van der Vaart]

But... nobody goes out there

Yeah you're right. Every one lives under ground in Cooper.
How about Alice Springs or Tennant Creek.

 

[Edwin van der Vaart]

calls for a pause in work and drinks all round...

Cheers

A VB will be fine.