Number of hits divided by "robot hits"

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Dos-Man, Mar 3, 2004.

  1. Dos-Man

    Dos-Man Guest

    Does anyone know if hits by robots and spiders
    trigger one's hit counter?

    If so, how do you determine how many hits were
    actual people?

    dos-man
    Dos-Man, Mar 3, 2004
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    Kris Guest

    In article <>,
    (Dos-Man) wrote:

    > Does anyone know if hits by robots and spiders
    > trigger one's hit counter?


    What is a hit counter? Or do you mean server logs?

    > If so, how do you determine how many hits were
    > actual people?


    You have to understand that a 'spider' is the part of the search engine
    that indexes your site. It passes by on its own time and takes a look
    around. When a web user attempts a search at the search engine, the SE's
    website presents relevant results taken from the database that the
    spider filled earlier. From the SE's website, the web user enters your
    site. What often distinguishes the spider from the human visitor, is the
    so called User Agent string. A web user's browser also has such a
    string, that it sends out with every request for a file from a webserver.

    A typical one is for example:
    Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)

    Here is a search engine spider's string, from one of my client's stats:
    htdig/3.1.6

    Applications that analyse the logfiles of your webserver are often able
    to show you the User Agent strings of visitors who passed by. Some of
    those applications show how many human visitors came from a search
    engine's website and sometimes also show what they were looking for.

    --
    Kris
    <> (nl)
    <http://www.cinnamon.nl/>
    Kris, Mar 3, 2004
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  3. Dos-Man wrote:

    > Does anyone know if hits by robots and spiders
    > trigger one's hit counter?


    That depends on the programming of the robot and the techniques used to
    implement the counter.

    > If so, how do you determine how many hits were actual people?


    Track the user agent header and cope with bots that pretend to be browsers
    and browsers which pretend to be "Waz up, big large?". Hit counters aren't
    really reliable anyway, the Internet has these things called 'caches'.

    --
    David Dorward <http://dorward.me.uk/>
    David Dorward, Mar 3, 2004
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    Steve Pugh Guest

    (Dos-Man) wrote:

    >Does anyone know if hits by robots and spiders
    >trigger one's hit counter?


    Depends how your hit counter works.
    Robots obviously contribute entries to your server log files.

    >If so, how do you determine how many hits were
    >actual people?


    Filter known robots out when you analyse your log files.

    Steve

    --
    "My theories appal you, my heresies outrage you,
    I never answer letters and you don't like my tie." - The Doctor

    Steve Pugh <> <http://steve.pugh.net/>
    Steve Pugh, Mar 3, 2004
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    Andy Dingley Guest

    On 3 Mar 2004 09:28:14 -0800, (Dos-Man) wrote:

    >Does anyone know if hits by robots and spiders
    >trigger one's hit counter?


    Depends. Many hit counters work by serving an image (and counting how
    often it does so). Many spiders ignore images and don't download them.

    >If so, how do you determine how many hits were
    >actual people?


    You don't care. There aren't that many spiders - if they're a
    significant proportion of the total, then your volume is small anyway.
    Andy Dingley, Mar 3, 2004
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    Augustus Guest

    "Dos-Man" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Does anyone know if hits by robots and spiders
    > trigger one's hit counter?
    >
    > If so, how do you determine how many hits were
    > actual people?
    >


    You got some good replies to your question... but I was going to add:

    It really doesn't matter. If this is a serious concern (if hits are
    bots/spiders or people) of yours then your site must have absolutely no
    traffic and you should worry about that instead spending even one second
    worrying if a hit is a real person or a bot
    Augustus, Mar 4, 2004
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