Ok go ahead and shoot me down again.

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Richard, Jan 2, 2005.

  1. Richard

    Richard Guest

    http://geocities.com/r_bullis/

    Validator just loves this puppy.
    So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    effects.

    <shooting gallery>
     
    Richard, Jan 2, 2005
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  2. In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    > http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >
    > Validator just loves this puppy.


    Yes. Probably for the 85 errors it finds in the document.


    > So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.


    Do it then.


    --
    Hywel http://kibo.org.uk/
    I do not eat quiche.
     
    Hywel Jenkins, Jan 2, 2005
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  3. Richard

    Oli Filth Guest

    Hywel Jenkins wrote:
    > In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    >
    >>http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >>
    >>Validator just loves this puppy.

    >
    >
    > Yes. Probably for the 85 errors it finds in the document.
    >


    Be thankful. At least the CSS validates.

    >
    >
    >>So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.

    >
    >
    > Do it then.
    >
    >


    What exactly did you post this thread for, Richard? Taking the piss, I
    assume?

    Oli
     
    Oli Filth, Jan 2, 2005
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  4. Richard

    Steve Pugh Guest

    "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote:

    >http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >
    >Validator just loves this puppy.


    85 errors is love?

    Otherwise it looks like a basic dhtml effect from 1997.
    Nice horizontal scrolling.

    Steve
     
    Steve Pugh, Jan 2, 2005
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  5. Richard

    Fat Sam Guest

    Richard wrote:
    > http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >
    > Validator just loves this puppy.
    > So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    > Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    > effects.
    >
    > <shooting gallery>


    And the content is where?.....Validator might love it, but the search
    engines will hate it.....Unless you're optimising for the keywords "Item
    One" "Item Two" "Subject 1" and "Subject 3".......
     
    Fat Sam, Jan 2, 2005
    #5
  6. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Richard wrote:

    > http://geocities.com/r_bullis/


    > Validator just loves this puppy.
    > So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    > Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    > effects.


    Got most of the errors fixed. Removed a lot of the font stuff which I don't
    like anyway.
    What's left are all the errors dealing with the <ilayer> tag and
    attributes.
    Now that, I have no clues on how to fix.
    Is it from the type of document being used and if so, which document is
    correct?
     
    Richard, Jan 2, 2005
    #6
  7. Richard

    Oli Filth Guest

    Richard wrote:
    > Richard wrote:
    >
    >
    >>http://geocities.com/r_bullis/

    >
    >
    >>Validator just loves this puppy.
    >>So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    >>Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    >>effects.

    >
    >
    > Got most of the errors fixed. Removed a lot of the font stuff which I don't
    > like anyway.


    You still seem to have 85 errors.

    > What's left are all the errors dealing with the <ilayer> tag and
    > attributes.
    > Now that, I have no clues on how to fix.
    > Is it from the type of document being used and if so, which document is
    > correct?
    >
    >
    >


    Firstly, the automatically generated Geocities script at the top of your
    source means that the <!DOCTYPE> is not the first line, so the doctype
    can't be identified.

    Secondly, <ILAYER> and <LAYER> are not valid HTML tags, they're some
    stupid Netscape proprietary additions. This is what happens when you
    just copy-and-paste code from elsewhere without thinking about it.

    Oli
     
    Oli Filth, Jan 2, 2005
    #7
  8. In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    > Richard wrote:
    >
    > > http://geocities.com/r_bullis/

    >
    > > Validator just loves this puppy.
    > > So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    > > Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    > > effects.

    >
    > Got most of the errors fixed.


    Really. From my recollection of early-years maths, 85 and 85 are the
    same number.

    --
    Hywel http://kibo.org.uk/
    I do not eat quiche.
     
    Hywel Jenkins, Jan 2, 2005
    #8
  9. Richard

    Neal Guest

    On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 20:09:57 -0000, Hywel Jenkins
    <> wrote:

    > In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    >> Richard wrote:
    >>
    >> > http://geocities.com/r_bullis/

    >>
    >> > Validator just loves this puppy.
    >> > So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    >> > Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    >> > effects.

    >>
    >> Got most of the errors fixed.

    >
    > Really. From my recollection of early-years maths, 85 and 85 are the
    > same number.


    It's new math. It's not as important how "correct" the answer is so long
    as you feel good about the process...
     
    Neal, Jan 2, 2005
    #9
  10. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Hywel Jenkins wrote:

    > In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    >> Richard wrote:
    >>
    > >> http://geocities.com/r_bullis/

    >>
    > >> Validator just loves this puppy.
    > >> So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    > >> Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    > >> effects.

    >>
    >> Got most of the errors fixed.


    > Really. From my recollection of early-years maths, 85 and 85 are the
    > same number.


    Wellllll duhhhhhh.
    The validator allows for checking the file on your machine.
     
    Richard, Jan 2, 2005
    #10
  11. Richard

    Richard Guest

    Oli Filth wrote:

    > Richard wrote:
    >> Richard wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>http://geocities.com/r_bullis/

    >>
    >>
    >>>Validator just loves this puppy.
    >>>So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    >>>Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    >>>effects.

    >>
    >>
    >> Got most of the errors fixed. Removed a lot of the font stuff which I
    >> don't like anyway.


    > You still seem to have 85 errors.


    >> What's left are all the errors dealing with the <ilayer> tag and
    >> attributes.
    >> Now that, I have no clues on how to fix.
    >> Is it from the type of document being used and if so, which document is
    >> correct?
    >>
    >>
    >>


    > Firstly, the automatically generated Geocities script at the top of your
    > source means that the <!DOCTYPE> is not the first line, so the doctype
    > can't be identified.


    > Secondly, <ILAYER> and <LAYER> are not valid HTML tags, they're some
    > stupid Netscape proprietary additions. This is what happens when you
    > just copy-and-paste code from elsewhere without thinking about it.


    > Oli



    I know that. So explain then why it works in IE 6?
    Not to mention firefox.

    I saw the <layer> tags in the code before applying it.
    I wasn't sure if it would work or not. If it works, what the hell?
    My editor had no problems dealing with it. And it's ancient history stuff.
     
    Richard, Jan 2, 2005
    #11
  12. Richard

    Oli Filth Guest

    Richard wrote:
    > Hywel Jenkins wrote:
    >
    >
    >>In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    >>
    >>> Richard wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >>>
    >>>>Validator just loves this puppy.
    >>>>So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    >>>>Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    >>>>effects.
    >>>
    >>>Got most of the errors fixed.

    >
    >
    >>Really. From my recollection of early-years maths, 85 and 85 are the
    >>same number.

    >
    >
    > Wellllll duhhhhhh.
    > The validator allows for checking the file on your machine.
    >
    >


    Will you ever stop being such a prick?
     
    Oli Filth, Jan 2, 2005
    #12
  13. Richard

    Oli Filth Guest

    Richard wrote:
    > Oli Filth wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Richard wrote:
    >>
    >>> Richard wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>Validator just loves this puppy.
    >>>>So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    >>>>Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    >>>>effects.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>Got most of the errors fixed. Removed a lot of the font stuff which I
    >>>don't like anyway.

    >
    >
    >>You still seem to have 85 errors.

    >
    >
    >>> What's left are all the errors dealing with the <ilayer> tag and
    >>>attributes.
    >>>Now that, I have no clues on how to fix.
    >>>Is it from the type of document being used and if so, which document is
    >>>correct?
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >
    >
    >>Firstly, the automatically generated Geocities script at the top of your
    >>source means that the <!DOCTYPE> is not the first line, so the doctype
    >>can't be identified.

    >
    >
    >>Secondly, <ILAYER> and <LAYER> are not valid HTML tags, they're some
    >>stupid Netscape proprietary additions. This is what happens when you
    >>just copy-and-paste code from elsewhere without thinking about it.

    >
    >
    >>Oli

    >
    >
    >
    > I know that. So explain then why it works in IE 6?
    > Not to mention firefox.
    >
    > I saw the <layer> tags in the code before applying it.
    > I wasn't sure if it would work or not. If it works, what the hell?
    > My editor had no problems dealing with it. And it's ancient history stuff.
    >
    >
    >


    That's some good trolling logic there. You know it's invalid HTML, but
    you wonder why the validator doesn't like it?

    And what exactly do you mean by "it works"? What visual difference is it
    making in IE or Firefox, exactly?

    Oli
     
    Oli Filth, Jan 2, 2005
    #13
  14. Richard

    Steve Pugh Guest

    "Richard" <Anonymous@127.001> wrote:
    > Oli Filth wrote:
    >> Richard wrote:
    >>> Richard wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    >>>
    >>> What's left are all the errors dealing with the <ilayer> tag and
    >>> attributes.
    >>> Now that, I have no clues on how to fix.
    >>> Is it from the type of document being used and if so, which document is
    >>> correct?
    >>>

    >> Secondly, <ILAYER> and <LAYER> are not valid HTML tags, they're some
    >> stupid Netscape proprietary additions. This is what happens when you
    >> just copy-and-paste code from elsewhere without thinking about it.

    >
    >I know that.


    Really?

    >So explain then why it works in IE 6?
    >Not to mention firefox.


    They ignore them. As far as all browsers except Netscape 4 is
    concerned the code that looks like:

    <div class="middle">
    <ilayer id="d1" width="200" height="200" visibility="hide">
    <layer id="d2" width="200" height="200">
    <div id="descriptions" align="left">
    ....content...
    </div>
    </layer>
    </ilayer>
    </div>

    might as well be:

    <div class="middle">
    <bollocks>
    <div id="descriptions" align="left">
    ....content...
    </div>
    </bollocks>
    </div>

    And is treated as if it was:

    <div class="middle">
    <div id="descriptions" align="left">
    ....content...
    </div>
    </div>

    >I saw the <layer> tags in the code before applying it.


    And didn't think to do a bit of research into what it was and why it
    was there?

    >I wasn't sure if it would work or not. If it works, what the hell?


    If you don't know what it is or what it's supposed to do how can you
    possibly know whether you're using it properly or whether it will
    cause problems in other browsers?

    >My editor had no problems dealing with it.


    I'm sure your editor would also cope with <bollocks> elements as well.

    > And it's ancient history stuff.


    Bingo. It's Netscape 4.x stuff from 1997. That is ancient history.

    Your page is totally FUBAR in Netscape 4 so including relics like
    <layer> isn't helping you with compatability for the poor souls who
    still use that browsers. So is there any point in keeping it in there?
    Go on have a guess. It's a yes/no question so even you have a 50%
    chance of being right.

    Steve
     
    Steve Pugh, Jan 2, 2005
    #14
  15. In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    > Hywel Jenkins wrote:
    >
    > > In article <>, Anonymous@127.001 says...
    > >> Richard wrote:
    > >>
    > > >> http://geocities.com/r_bullis/
    > >>
    > > >> Validator just loves this puppy.
    > > >> So don't tell me what I need to do, I know it already.
    > > >> Just putting it up to show off my implementing of two different script
    > > >> effects.
    > >>
    > >> Got most of the errors fixed.

    >
    > > Really. From my recollection of early-years maths, 85 and 85 are the
    > > same number.

    >
    > Wellllll duhhhhhh.
    > The validator allows for checking the file on your machine.


    Duh. The version you're so stoopidly boasting about isn't valid, you
    dipshit.

    --
    Hywel http://kibo.org.uk/
    I do not eat quiche.
     
    Hywel Jenkins, Jan 2, 2005
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