Other Problem: frameborder="0"

[doGmaI]

I'm working on getting my site correct (HTML Validator and CSS validator
....)
Now I got others 2 problem (the first one, is still not solved )

first: in the index2.html I put <frameset BORDER="0" blah blah>. HTML
validator says that BORDER="0" is not "standard". I replaced that option
with
<FRAMESET ROWS...>
<FRAME name.... FRAMEBORDER="0">
<FRAME name.... FRAMEBORDER="0">
</FRAMESET>
Now the page is correct. But everybrowser shows a frame border between the
upper menù and the lower page. doh

Second problem: anyone knows if the tag MAP is not supported in Safari (on
mac)?

 

[David Dorward]

first: in the index2.html I put <frameset BORDER="0" blah blah>.

No browser, AFAIK, supports the HTML way to hide borders on frames. (And
99.9% of the time, frames are a suboptimal solution to the problem anyway).

Options:

1. Don't use frames
2. Don't hide borders
3. Write your own DTD (and don't use HTML)
4. Don't use valid markup

 

[doGmaI]

Il Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:09:56 +0100, David Dorward scrisse:

1. Don't use frames

mmmmmm i have to re-code the entire site ... I heard about something like
server side include to make a menu on each page instead of adding serveral
times the same html code ... but i know nothing about this

2. Don't hide borders

but, again, each browser show a different type of border (Opera a grey
border for the whole horizontal length, IE a white border, about 2 pixel, FF
a 10!!!pixel white border

3. Write your own DTD (and don't use HTML)

Ehmmmm... what? DTD... I only know HTML and CSS

4. Don't use valid markup

The easiest way It wasn't a valid HTML page till yesterday... maybe I go
back to that solution for now

But I'm still angry with browser developer ... No one made a "standard
browser"... to do a small thing I have to code the page 4 or 5 time to make
it look good on every browser ... doh

 

[SpaceGirl]

Il Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:09:56 +0100, David Dorward scrisse:



mmmmmm i have to re-code the entire site ... I heard about something like
server side include to make a menu on each page instead of adding serveral
times the same html code ... but i know nothing about this



but, again, each browser show a different type of border (Opera a grey
border for the whole horizontal length, IE a white border, about 2 pixel, FF
a 10!!!pixel white border



Ehmmmm... what? DTD... I only know HTML and CSS



The easiest way It wasn't a valid HTML page till yesterday... maybe I go
back to that solution for now

But I'm still angry with browser developer ... No one made a "standard
browser"... to do a small thing I have to code the page 4 or 5 time to make
it look good on every browser ... doh

If you write to the standards and avoid things like frames *most* of the
standards problems disappear with modern browsers. The problem is more
to do with lazy designers