Please criticize my website.

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Luigi Donatello Asero

I know that my website
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
is far from being perfect.
I have modified a few things since we talked about it a few months ago.
For example there are probably much less validation errors than there used
to be some months ago, I have begun to create subsubdirectories, I have
begun using
<?php include "menu-svenska.html"; ?> and the like to be able to save the
menu.
There are also some new pictures, the homepage has changed.
But there are probably many other things to improve.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you very much in advance and for any help which you gave me before in
this NG.

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

rf said:
The centre column layout is broken in Firefox.

Cheers
Richard.

What does the problem depend on?
The page validates.
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/index.php


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

rf said:
Luigi Donatello Asero



AFAICT nothing. It's permanently broken.

...and the entire site is extremely difficult to figure out, even if
you can read the language.
Validation does not imply that it works.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/screenshot/l.jpg

Ooh! Ooh! I've got one too!
http://k75s.home.att.net/images/luigi.jpg
BTW Why on earth is that page serverd up as HTTPS? I see no input
fields anywhere on that page that would require a secure
connection.

We tried to talk him out of that nonsense several months ago. We lost.
 
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rf

Beauregard said:
rf wrote:

We tried to talk him out of that nonsense several months ago. We lost.

Ah yes, I remember now, the paranoia bit. I largely ignored it then.

Hmmm. I think I'll just move on to something else now.

Cheers
Richard.
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

rf said:
Luigi Donatello Asero


AFAICT nothing. It's permanently broken.


What does AFAICT mean?
Validation does not imply that it works.

It seems to be so. But it is difficult to say what is wrong with one page
which validates,
isn´t it?
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/screenshot/l.jpg

BTW Why on earth is that page serverd up as HTTPS? I see no input fields
anywhere on that page that would require a secure connection.


Because as user I trust more https pages than http pages.
That does not mean that all the users will think the same way I do, but I
find it difficult to believe that there are many users who trust more a http
page than a https page, given that the other circumstances are the same.
As a user accessing a page over http protocoll I wonder whether there are
pages at all in that website which are sent over https ( for example forms).
A page which is sent over https should be the one it pretends to be. A page
sent over http might be another.
Besides I find more practical for me to have all https pages instead of
having some http pages and other https pages.
The user who does not like the warning message which are shown by the
browser/browsers
can check the option that he does not want to see them any longer

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:

Thank you for posting it.
Do you know what it depends on?


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Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

rf said:
Ok. So you mean that, as far as you can tell, there is nothing which I can
do
to correct this mistake and let Firefox show the table without breaking it.

--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 
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rf

Luigi said:
Ok. So you mean that, as far as you can tell, there is nothing which I can
do
to correct this mistake and let Firefox show the table without breaking
it.

No, I don't mean that at all.

You asked "what does this depend on".

I interpret this to mean "at my end". That is, what can I, the user, do to
produce/eliminate the problem.

I answered that it does not depend on anything [at my end], as in browser
size, user font size etc. It is a permanent authoring error.

<tinkers/>

FWIW it is caused by you specifying display: block; for your td elements.

IE is so broken that it will ignore display: block; for td elements. FF
accepts it, with the bizarre results we see.

Why do you want your td elements to be display: block; anyway? They are part
of a table, they should be display: table-row; surely.

No, belay that. I don't want to know :)

Cheers
Richard.
 
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JDS

Ah yes, I remember now, the paranoia bit. I largely ignored it then.

So if I point out his misunderstanding of the how and why behind https, he
will not get it? 'cause I was about to tell him the flaws in his thinking
on the issue.
 
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Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm said:
Why do you want your td elements to be display: block; anyway? They are part
of a table, they should be display: table-row; surely.

No, belay that. I don't want to know :)

That was definitely my biggest laugh of the week.
 
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty

JDS said:
So if I point out his misunderstanding of the how and why behind
https, he will not get it? 'cause I was about to tell him the
flaws in his thinking on the issue.

That was tried some months ago when he decided to "secure" his site by
making all the regular old ordinary pages "https." He thinks it really
is more secure, and that his visitors will appreciate it.

Luigi has done .. triple? .. work on his site because of this.
 
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dorayme

From: "Luigi Donatello Asero said:
I know that my website
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com
is far from being perfect.
I have modified a few things since we talked about it a few months ago.
For example there are probably much less validation errors than there used
to be some months ago, I have begun to create subsubdirectories, I have
begun using
<?php include "menu-svenska.html"; ?> and the like to be able to save the
menu.
There are also some new pictures, the homepage has changed.
But there are probably many other things to improve.
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you very much in advance and for any help which you gave me before in
this NG.


It looks badly broken on my best browser on Mac OS9 (Mozilla
1.3.1). It will surely be pointed out by others. If not, I will
send you a screen shot. Are you looking at this site of yours in
all the browsers you can? Using screen shot services on the
internet for other platform browsers and getting rid of all the
markup errors as shown by validation services?

dorayme
 
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dorayme

From: "rf said:
Luigi Donatello Asero


AFAICT nothing. It's permanently broken.


Validation does not imply that it works.

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/screenshot/l.jpg

BTW Why on earth is that page serverd up as HTTPS? I see no input fields
anywhere on that page that would require a secure connection.

Cheers
Richard

I beg you with all my heart... Don't go there again. This whole
business was gone into last time around with Luigi... It is like
a religious discussion. He wants secure. Let him have it!

dorayme
 
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rf

JDS said:
So if I point out his misunderstanding of the how and why behind https, he
will not get it? 'cause I was about to tell him the flaws in his thinking
on the issue.

Correct. Absolutely everybody advised him against it during the original
discussion. Everybodys advice was dismissed.

It appears that the pages *must* be served encrypted so some nasty third
party hacker will not be able to change them during their travels from the
server to the client. The viewer *must* be secure in the knowledge that the
information on the page being viewed *is* in fact the same information that
the author placed on the server.

The overheads HTTPS incurs are not, apparently, an issue.

Cheers
Richard.
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

dorayme said:
It looks badly broken on my best browser on Mac OS9 (Mozilla
1.3.1). It will surely be pointed out by others. If not, I will
send you a screen shot. Are you looking at this site of yours in
all the browsers you can?

Well, actually, I am not.
I understand that it would be better to do that although it is partly a
matter of resources.
See also my previous post in this thread.
How does the page look now after the changes which I have made, anyway?


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 
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Luigi Donatello Asero

Beauregard T. Shagnasty said:
Probably a design error of yours.


Yes, I think so.


--
Luigi Donatello Asero
(sono italiano ma vivo in Svezia)
(Ñ Ð¸Ñ‚Ð°Ð»ÑŒÑнец но Ñ Ð¶Ð¸Ð²Ñƒ в Швеции )
(我是 æ„大利人 , 但是 我 ä½ åœ¨ ç‘žå…¸)
(minä olen Italian kansalainen, mutta minä asun Ruotsissa)
https://www.scaiecat-spa-gigi.com/
 

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