problem with code

Discussion in 'HTML' started by thedarkman, Sep 13, 2010.

  1. thedarkman

    thedarkman Guest

    No jokes please; on this page

    http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html

    the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?

    Thanks
     
    thedarkman, Sep 13, 2010
    #1
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  2. thedarkman

    rf Guest

    "thedarkman" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > No jokes please; on this page
    >
    > http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >
    > the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    > Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    > I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?


    You have one thousand three hundred and sixty three HTML errors, and 5
    warnings. Not bad for a page that is 3500 lines long. That's an error to
    line ration of 39% :)

    The most notable one (and the one probably causing your problem) is that
    font, apart from being deprecated, is an inline element and cannot contain
    block elements. h1 and p are block elements. It's only by the grace of the
    browsers error correction that you are getting any colour at all.

    I suspect the browser has simply given up on its error correction. (Doesn't
    happen with IE8 BTW).

    BTW if you were to use CSS then you could eliminate all of those font
    elements and be able to specify your colours in exactly one place.

    h1 {color: red; background-color: white;}
    p {color: black; background-color: white;}
     
    rf, Sep 13, 2010
    #2
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  3. thedarkman

    dorayme Guest

    In article
    <
    m>,
    thedarkman <> wrote:

    > No jokes please; on this page
    >
    > http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >
    > the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    > Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    > I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?
    >


    Yes, I would not dream of joking about this page, one of the best
    pieces of markup I have seen in a long time. I am glad you asked
    this instructive question thedarkman, the answer is to notice
    that with Godiva, you have:

    <h1><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><a name="davidfrost"></a><a
    name="giraffe"></a><a name="hubble"></a><a name="judge_m"></a><a
    name="lord_arse"><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><em>Miss
    Godiva</em></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></
    strong></font></font></strong></font></font></a></font></font></st
    rong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font><
    /strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fon
    t></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></
    font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font
    ></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></f

    ont></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong>
    </font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></stro
    ng></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></s
    trong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font>
    </strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fo
    nt></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font><
    /font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></fon
    t></font></strong></font></font></h1>

    whereas with Mork, you have:

    <h1><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><a name="davidfrost"></a><a
    name="giraffe"></a><a name="hubble"></a><a name="judge_m"></a><a
    name="lord_arse"><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><em>Mork The
    Polack</em></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong>
    </font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></a></
    font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong
    ></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></str

    ong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></
    strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font
    ></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></f

    ont></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font>
    </font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></fo
    nt></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong><
    /font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></stron
    g></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></st
    rong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font><
    /strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fon
    t></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></h1>

    Now to fix *just this business of Mork going black* substitute
    for Mork:

    <h1><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><a name="davidfrost"></a><a
    name="giraffe"></a><a name="hubble"></a><a name="judge_m"></a><a
    name="lord_arse"><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    color="#FF0000"><strong><em>Mork The
    Polack</em></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong>
    </font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></a></
    font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong
    ></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></str

    ong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></
    strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font
    ></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></f

    ont></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font>
    </font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></fo
    nt></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong><
    /font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></stron
    g></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></st
    rong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font><
    /strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fon
    t></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></h1>

    and do similar for the rest below Mork.

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Sep 13, 2010
    #3
  4. thedarkman

    dorayme Guest

    In article <>,
    Ed Mullen <> wrote:

    > dorayme wrote:
    > > In article
    > > <
    > > m>,
    > > thedarkman<> wrote:
    > >
    > >> No jokes please; on this page
    > >>
    > >> http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    > >>
    > >> the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    > >> Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    > >> I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?
    > >>

    > >
    > > Yes, I would not dream of joking about this page, one of the best
    > > pieces of markup I have seen in a long time. I am glad you asked
    > > this instructive question thedarkman, the answer is to notice
    > > that with Godiva, you have:

    >
    > > and do similar for the rest below Mork.

    >
    > OMG. I got a huge headache just reading that, dorayme! Geez!
    >


    You tried to read it? Not even I did! But if this OP cum
    prankster cum troll did what I suggested, his Mork would go red.
    Trust me, Ed. <g>

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Sep 13, 2010
    #4
  5. thedarkman

    Neredbojias Guest

    On 12 Sep 2010, thedarkman <> wrote:

    > No jokes please; on this page
    >
    > http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >
    > the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    > Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    > I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?
    >
    > Thanks


    I think the problem is that you didn't concentrate sufficiently during
    the 5 minutes you spent learning html. Congratulations, though; that
    is the worst page I've seen this year (2010). Actually, I mis-speak to
    some extent because the default background of my browser is black and
    so is most of your text.

    --
    Neredbojias

    http://www.neredbojias.org/
    http://www.neredbojias.net/
     
    Neredbojias, Sep 13, 2010
    #5
  6. thedarkman

    123Jim Guest

    "thedarkman" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > No jokes please; on this page
    >
    > http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >
    > the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    > Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    > I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?
    >
    > Thanks


    There once was a guy called thedarkman
    He did something bad with the web man
    Oh Dog won't you save us from reading his markup
    and tell him he needs to give up man.

    I can't figure out how you created such a monstrous abortion of a page.
    start again? :)

    which editor are you using?
     
    123Jim, Sep 13, 2010
    #6
  7. thedarkman

    123Jim Guest

    "dorayme" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > In article
    > <
    > m>,
    > thedarkman <> wrote:
    >
    >> No jokes please; on this page
    >>
    >> http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >>
    >> the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    >> Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    >> I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?
    >>

    >
    > Yes, I would not dream of joking about this page, one of the best
    > pieces of markup I have seen in a long time. I am glad you asked
    > this instructive question thedarkman, the answer is to notice
    > that with Godiva, you have:
    >
    > <h1><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><a name="davidfrost"></a><a
    > name="giraffe"></a><a name="hubble"></a><a name="judge_m"></a><a
    > name="lord_arse"><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><em>Miss
    > Godiva</em></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></
    > strong></font></font></strong></font></font></a></font></font></st
    > rong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font><
    > /strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fon
    > t></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></
    > font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font
    >></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></f

    > ont></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong>
    > </font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></stro
    > ng></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></s
    > trong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font>
    > </strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fo
    > nt></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font><
    > /font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></fon
    > t></font></strong></font></font></h1>
    >
    > whereas with Mork, you have:
    >
    > <h1><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><a name="davidfrost"></a><a
    > name="giraffe"></a><a name="hubble"></a><a name="judge_m"></a><a
    > name="lord_arse"><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><em>Mork The
    > Polack</em></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong>
    > </font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></a></
    > font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong
    >></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></str

    > ong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></
    > strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font
    >></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></f

    > ont></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font>
    > </font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></fo
    > nt></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong><
    > /font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></stron
    > g></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></st
    > rong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font><
    > /strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fon
    > t></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></h1>
    >
    > Now to fix *just this business of Mork going black* substitute
    > for Mork:
    >
    > <h1><font color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><strong><font
    > color="#FF0000"><font color="#000000"><a name="davidfrost"></a><a
    > name="giraffe"></a><a name="hubble"></a><a name="judge_m"></a><a
    > name="lord_arse"><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#000000"><strong><font color="#FF0000"><font
    > color="#FF0000"><strong><em>Mork The
    > Polack</em></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong>
    > </font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></a></
    > font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong
    >></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></str

    > ong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></
    > strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font
    >></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></f

    > ont></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font>
    > </font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></fo
    > nt></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong><
    > /font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></stron
    > g></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></st
    > rong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></font><
    > /strong></font></font></strong></font></font></strong></font></fon
    > t></strong></font></font></strong></font></font></h1>
    >
    > and do similar for the rest below Mork.
    >
    > --



    I'm a bit confused with this page .. when I check the markup using Firebug
    ... I find the markup you post above, but when I check the markup by.. right
    click > view page source .. the markup is not at all monstrous .. it's
    perfectly basic ..
    what gives?
     
    123Jim, Sep 13, 2010
    #7
  8. thedarkman wrote:

    > No jokes please;


    That's gonna be tough...

    > on this page
    > http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html


    Aside: limericks should not be aligned as "centered" .. the normal
    display of the limerick poem is to be "text-align: left" with the third
    and fourth lines indented about three spaces or so.

    Do you know who G. Legman is?

    (Most text should not be "centered.")

    --
    -bts
    -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Sep 13, 2010
    #8
  9. thedarkman

    rf Guest

    "123Jim" <> wrote in message
    news:i6l4ra$nle$-september.org...
    >
    > "dorayme" <> wrote in message
    > news:...


    <snip code>

    > I'm a bit confused with this page .. when I check the markup using Firebug
    > .. I find the markup you post above, but when I check the markup by..
    > right click > view page source .. the markup is not at all monstrous ..
    > it's perfectly basic ..
    > what gives?


    View source is, well, er, what the server spat out to the browser.

    The markup viewed with firebug is from the DOM, after the browsers error
    correction has been applied. It's the browsers "view" of what the page looks
    like.

    This may differ from what the authors view of what the page looks like.
     
    rf, Sep 13, 2010
    #9
  10. 123Jim wrote:

    [ fullquote, a usual sign of cluelessness, though perhaps intentionally so,
    given the nature of the thread ]

    > I'm a bit confused with this page ..


    (Hint: " .." is a fairly strong cluelessness signal, too.)

    You apparently mean the page
    http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    (Due to fullquoting, a reader has to scroll up a lot to guess what you are
    referring to.)

    > when I check the markup using
    > Firebug .. I find the markup you post above,


    Ditto when using Firefox Web Developer Extension.

    > but when I check the
    > markup by.. right click > view page source .. the markup is not at
    > all monstrous .. it's perfectly basic ..
    > what gives?


    It's interesting indeed. Maybe we all should learn to do a simple View
    Source every now and then.

    The page contains no client side scripting, so what's the difference being
    original source and "generated source". Well, Firefox, apparently. The
    "generated source" contains the markup as modified by Firefox. You can see
    that Firefox plays an interesting game here, if you just test with a
    document containing

    <font color=red><h1>Hello world</h1>

    in its body. Firefox turns it to

    <font color="red"></font><h1><font color="red">Hello world</font></h1>

    And you may guess what happens if a page contains lots of <font> tags and
    relatives, without any closing tags for them.

    If you look at the page on IE (don't you ever do that, guys?). Mork The
    Pollack is red.

    Apparently the Firefox rendering problem is caused by its second-guessing of
    what the markup is supposed to be, generating bulky stuff that apparently
    runs over some intrinsic limit.

    The page markup is bad, but it really didn't reserve this. The problem
    probably vanishes in a puff of logic if the author does this:
    1) remove all FONT markup (a simple global replace would do this, as the
    page seems to contain just fairly simple FONT tags)
    2) add a stylesheet rule to make headings read if you really want that (you
    have been implicitly warned), e.g. putting the following right before the
    end tag </HEAD>:

    <style type="text/css">
    h1 { color: red; background: white; }
    </style>

    (Of course, I would never use h1 markup for something that is definitely
    _second_ level headings, but that's just me and every sensible web author,
    and beside the point.)

    --
    Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
     
    Jukka K. Korpela, Sep 13, 2010
    #10
  11. On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 23:14:39 +1000, "rf" <> wrote:

    >
    >"123Jim" <> wrote in message
    >news:i6l4ra$nle$-september.org...
    >>
    >> "dorayme" <> wrote in message
    >> news:...

    >
    ><snip code>
    >
    >> I'm a bit confused with this page .. when I check the markup using Firebug
    >> .. I find the markup you post above, but when I check the markup by..
    >> right click > view page source .. the markup is not at all monstrous ..
    >> it's perfectly basic ..
    >> what gives?

    >
    >View source is, well, er, what the server spat out to the browser.
    >
    >The markup viewed with firebug is from the DOM, after the browsers error
    >correction has been applied. It's the browsers "view" of what the page looks
    >like.
    >
    >This may differ from what the authors view of what the page looks like.
    >

    That's correct ...
    That's a part of the source:
    <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">
    <h1><i>A Limerick For Everybody's Favourite Double Child
    Killer</i></h1>
    <FONT COLOR="#000000">
    <b>
    <p>There once was a nonce name of <a href="marshall-images.html">Hunt-

    <br>Ley</a> who said "I'm sure that knife is blunt",
    <br>But alas, it was not,
    <br>Now a scarred face he's got
    <br>In Frankland gaol, the murdering ****.
    <p>
    <br>

    <FONT COLOR="#FF0000">

    <h1><i>A Nice Pair</i></h1>
    <FONT COLOR="#000000">
    <b>
    <p>There was once a young lady named Sam
    <br>Who said: Brainless you may think I am,
    <br>Just because I undress
    <br>For the popular press,
    <br>But I'm making a mint,
    <br>(Not bad for a dumb bint),
    <br>So I really could not give a damn.

    <p>
    <br>

    You should notice that a lot of tags are not closed ....
    Close it first :)
     
    Raymond Schmit, Sep 13, 2010
    #11
  12. thedarkman

    Doug Miller Guest

    In article <_nfjo.6267$>, "rf"
    <> wrote:
    >
    >"thedarkman" <> wrote in message
    >news:...
    >> No jokes please; on this page
    >>
    >> http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >>
    >> the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    >> Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    >> I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?

    >
    >You have one thousand three hundred and sixty three HTML errors, and 5
    >warnings. Not bad for a page that is 3500 lines long. That's an error to
    >line ration of 39% :)


    He's up to 1467 errors now... :-(
     
    Doug Miller, Sep 15, 2010
    #12
  13. thedarkman

    rf Guest

    "Doug Miller" <> wrote in message
    news:i6p4ht$nmp$-september.org...
    > In article <_nfjo.6267$>, "rf"
    > <> wrote:
    >>
    >>"thedarkman" <> wrote in message
    >>news:...
    >>> No jokes please; on this page
    >>>
    >>> http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >>>
    >>> the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    >>> Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    >>> I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?

    >>
    >>You have one thousand three hundred and sixty three HTML errors, and 5
    >>warnings. Not bad for a page that is 3500 lines long. That's an error to
    >>line ration of 39% :)

    >
    > He's up to 1467 errors now... :-(


    I get 1474, and he has fewer lines. The ratio is climbing: 45.3% now.

    But I notice that absolutely none of the many solutions presented over the
    several thread this google grouper started have been implemented. His page
    is still broken. Oh, well, who bloody cares anymore :)
     
    rf, Sep 15, 2010
    #13
  14. Doug Miller wrote:
    > In article<_nfjo.6267$>, "rf"
    > <> wrote:
    >>
    >> "thedarkman"<> wrote in message
    >> news:...
    >>> No jokes please; on this page
    >>>
    >>> http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >>>
    >>> the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    >>> Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    >>> I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?

    >>
    >> You have one thousand three hundred and sixty three HTML errors, and 5
    >> warnings. Not bad for a page that is 3500 lines long. That's an error to
    >> line ration of 39% :)

    >
    > He's up to 1467 errors now... :-(

    I downloaded the page and opened it with DreamWeaver. This is first time
    I've ever received this warning when I ran the command fix html (errors).

    "The document is nested so deeply, DreamWeaver has had to give up."

    --
    Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. "If it's Fixed, Don't Break it"
    http://www.phillipmjones.net/ mailto:p
     
    Phillip Jones, Sep 15, 2010
    #14
  15. thedarkman wrote:
    > No jokes please; on this page
    >
    > http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >
    > the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    > Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    > I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?


    I will try, but it is pretty clear that you are adamant in refusing to
    be enlighten.

    1) As you have already be told the reason the page breaks is that you
    have made numerous errors in your markup. Browsers try to "fix" or
    "error correct" these errors, but if you throw enough crap at them they
    well eventually give up. IE is better at parsing crap. Other browsers
    expect that the authors know at least something about HTML and give up
    sooner.

    2) You are not closing elements that *require* closing. If you don't
    know what that means then you need to learn a little bit about web
    authoring.

    3) If you do not want to learn, your posts and your page does seem to
    indicate such:

    "If you are NOT viewing this page with Internet Explorer, you may see
    ....
    This is because I am primarily a researcher and author, not a code warrior!"

    Then I suggest you hire someone else to do it for you...

    4) Contrary to what I perceive your impression of HTML and CSS to be
    with a *simple* page as yours is it is not too difficult to implement.

    5) A small possible template illustrates how very simple a working
    solution could be:

    <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
    <html>
    <head>

    <title>Fix it</title>

    <style type="text/css">
    h1, h2, p { text-align: center; }
    h1 { color: red; }
    h2 { color: red; font-style: italic; }
    p.note { color: red; }
    </style>
    </head>
    <body>

    <h1>
    LIMERICKS<br>
    BY ALEXANDER BARON
    </h1>

    <p>
    [This collection includes non-standard limericks: extended limericks and
    limerick poems, etc].
    </p>

    <p class="note">
    Unlike the original website this page doesn't require the use of a
    broken browser to view it
    <p>

    <h2>
    A Limerick For Everybody's Favourite Double Child Killer
    </h2>

    <p>
    There once was a nonce name of Hunt-<br>
    Ley who said "I'm sure that knife is blunt",<br>
    But alas, it was not,<br>
    Now a scarred face he's got<br>
    In Frankland gaol, the murdering ****.
    </p>

    <h2>
    A Nice Pair
    </h2>
    <p>
    There was once a young lady named Sam<br>
    Who said: Brainless you may think I am,<br>
    Just because I undress<br>
    For the popular press,<br>
    But I'm making a mint,<br>
    (Not bad for a dumb bint),<br>
    So I really could not give a damn.<br>
    </p>

    <p class="note">
    Now continue with the same pattern...if it is not too difficult for you.
    </p>

    </body>
    </html>



    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
     
    Jonathan N. Little, Sep 15, 2010
    #15
  16. Jonathan N. Little wrote:

    > <p>
    > There once was a nonce name of Hunt-<br>
    > Ley who said "I'm sure that knife is blunt",<br>
    > But alas, it was not,<br>
    > Now a scarred face he's got<br>
    > In Frankland gaol, the murdering ****.
    > </p>


    I style limericks thusly, because I am a firm believer the 3rd and 4th
    lines should be indented:

    ..limerick {
    font-family: Georgia, serif; /* <- your font choice here */
    }

    <pre class='limerick'>
    There once was a nonce name of Hunt-
    Ley who said "I'm sure that knife is blunt",
    But alas, it was not,
    Now a scarred face he's got
    In Frankland gaol, the murdering ****.
    </pre>

    Whoohoo! No <br>s needed, spacing and indenting observed!

    This however, will be beyond the skills of our darkman...

    --
    -bts
    -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Sep 15, 2010
    #16
  17. Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

    > This however, will be beyond the skills of our darkman...


    I guess he like being in the dark. ;-)

    --
    Take care,

    Jonathan
    -------------------
    LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
    http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
     
    Jonathan N. Little, Sep 15, 2010
    #17
  18. thedarkman

    dorayme Guest

    In article <i6p9lp$jko$-september.org>,
    "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" <> wrote:

    > I style limericks thusly, because I am a firm believer the 3rd and 4th
    > lines should be indented


    That's because of the Irish blood in you, there is a cute kink in
    a crucial gene.

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Sep 15, 2010
    #18
  19. dorayme wrote:

    > "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
    >> I style limericks thusly, because I am a firm believer the 3rd and
    >> 4th lines should be indented

    >
    > That's because of the Irish blood in you, there is a cute kink in a
    > crucial gene.


    Irish? <lol> The closest I can come to that is a grandmother who was a
    scouse.

    --
    -bts
    -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
     
    Beauregard T. Shagnasty, Sep 15, 2010
    #19
  20. thedarkman

    picayunish Guest

    On 15-9-2010 3:12, Phillip Jones wrote:
    > Doug Miller wrote:
    >> In article<_nfjo.6267$>, "rf"
    >> <> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "thedarkman"<> wrote in message
    >>> news:...
    >>>
    >>>> No jokes please; on this page
    >>>>
    >>>> http://www.infotextmanuscripts.org/limericks.html
    >>>>
    >>>> the titles are in red all the way down but suddenly at Mork The
    >>>> Pollack they've gone to black. I can't for the life of me see what
    >>>> I've done wrong. Can someone enlighten me?
    >>>
    >>> You have one thousand three hundred and sixty three HTML errors, and 5
    >>> warnings. Not bad for a page that is 3500 lines long. That's an error to
    >>> line ration of 39% :)

    >>
    >> He's up to 1467 errors now... :-(

    > I downloaded the page and opened it with DreamWeaver. This is first time
    > I've ever received this warning when I ran the command fix html (errors).
    >
    > "The document is nested so deeply, DreamWeaver has had to give up."


    Use dirt and pointy finger as editor. It never gives up.
    --
    Edwin van der Vaart
     
    picayunish, Sep 15, 2010
    #20
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