Thanks for your reply Stephen,
As for why the ASP.NET will choose to make the Profile and
ApplicationInstance interface dynamically compiled into the page or
usercontrol classes, it is somewhat from performance consideration. And we
could also call this a Lazy-Involve design. As for Profile service, not all
the ASP.NET web application will use it, as we can see that Profile servcie
can be disable in the web.config and in such scenario , the ASP.NET runtime
won't adding profiles service interfaces into Page or usercontrol classes
which can reduce some overhead... And for ApplicaitonInstance, that'll
be more complex than Profile service, it is not determined by some
configuration setting but by analyzing our page or control's code to see
whether ApplicaitonInstance is necessary. So I think this is also one of
the benefit provided by dynanmic compilation...
Thanks,
Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support
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| I have been wondering if there is a reason these two methods are
implimented
| on the dynamic page class instead of in the base UserControl class?
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| Stephen.
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| | > Thanks for your further followup.
| >
| > Yes, I can see that when the imported precompiled controls' count
| > increase,
| > the warnings will become a pain. However, this is somewhat the
limitation
| > of such programming model. Since the new ASP.NET 2.0's precompiled model
| > provide the functionality to let dynamic page class precompiled, and
let
| > us
| > reuse existing compiled pages and usercontrols conveniently, but it'll
| > also
| > cause some negative behaviors. Sometimes it's hard to make it complete
| > perfect.
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| > Thanks,
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| > | I understand what's happing and why. It isn't causing me a problem,
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| > | project seems to be working.
| > |
| > | My problem with this is that it is a messy solution, now that I have
| > | converted all my control libraries I have hundreds of warnings that
I'll
| > | never be able to get rid off that are obscuring other warnings that
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| > be
| > | of use to me.
| > |
| > | Stephen
| > |
| > | | > | > Hi Stephen,
| > | >
| > | > How are you doing on this issue, does my last reply helps you
| > understand
| > | > this a little further? If there're anything else we can help, please
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| > | > free to post here. Thanks,
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| > | > | Hi Stephen,
| > | > |
| > | > | After some further research, I've got the actual reason of the two
| > | > | properites "Profile" and "ApplicationInstance". They're two
| > properties
| > | > | which related to ASP.NET web pages and usercontrol's compilation
| > model.
| > | > | Since the PublishSite generated assemblies are the same as those
| > | > generated
| > | > | by asp.net runtime (under temporarly folder...), those page and
| > | > | usercontrol's concrete classes will have some additional
properties
| > | > (which
| > | > | we doesn't define in our codebehind ...) . For example:
| > | > |
| > | > | the "Profile" Property is used to access the default Profile
| > Provider
| > | > for
| > | > | this application, and "ApplicationInstance" is used for
accesssing
| > the
| > | > | current Request's associated ApplicationInstance object...
| > | > |
| > | > | And as for the warning, it is because when the first time our
| > reusable
| > | > page
| > | > | or usercontrol is added into another website project, and when use
| > | > "build"
| > | > | menu to build the website, VS.NET IDE will also try to generate
| > another
| > | > | page class which inherit from that page/usercontrol's precompiled
| > | > assembly
| > | > | (like App_Web_u02dnptq.dll), and since this class will also
define
| > a
| > | > | "Profile or ApplicationInstance" property, we'll get that
| > | > warning.....(some
| > | > | what like a duplicated derived class...)
| > | > |
| > | > | In addition, I think we can just ignore this warning, because
when
| > we
| > | > | publish our MainSite (which reuse those pages or controls), the
| > | > precompiled
| > | > | assemblies won't really generate a duplicated derived class, still
| > | > | reference the orginally generated precompiled assembly. I've
| > performed
| > | > some
| > | > | tests on myside to verify this.
| > | > |
| > | > | Hope helps. Thanks,
| > | > |
| > | > | Steven Cheng
| > | > | Microsoft Online Support
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| > | > | | > This project shows the warnings.
| > | > | | >
| > | > | |
| > | > | | Opps, missed out the link...
| > | > | |
| > | > | |
http://www.perfectphase.com/store/hidding.zip
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| > | > | | Stephen.
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