Purchasing The Standard

[Richard Herring]

I think the standard should be available for free in electronic form, as
is the case for the Ada standard, which is an ISO standard just as C++
is. If it can be done for Ada, why can it not be done for C++ ?

$65, or $18 payable by credit card for a download, puts it out of reach
for schools in many poor countries.

If you've got the latest Standard, I'd be grateful if you could please email
it to me at:

JKop + @ + eircom + . + net
[/QUOTE]
That's called "entrapment".

 

[Default User]

If you've got the latest Standard, I'd be grateful if you could please email
it to me at:

For someone who requests help from this group so much, you are certainly
going out of your way to annoy the regulars. I wouldn't be surprised if
you weren't hitting the bottom of a number of killfiles right now.




Brian Rodenborn

 

[E. Robert Tisdale]

For someone who requests help from this group so much, you are certainly
going out of your way to annoy the regulars. I wouldn't be surprised if
you weren't hitting the bottom of a number of killfiles right now.

Speaking of which, can anybody tell me
how I can get my Mozilla newsreader to killfile Brian Rodenborn?

Any help would be *very* much appreciated.

 

[Default User]

Speaking of which, can anybody tell me
how I can get my Mozilla newsreader to killfile Brian Rodenborn?

You were given instructions previously. I can't believe even you are
stupid enough not to be able to figure out the relatively simple
filtering of the Mozilla newsreader, ergo I conclude this is another in
your long campaign of trolling this newsgroup.




Brian Rodenborn

 

[Pete Becker]

That's called "entrapment".

Nothing as sophisticated as that. Just plain theft.

 

[Alexander Terekhov]

Pete Becker wrote:
[...]

Just plain theft.

Uhmm. Digital first sale aside for a moment,

"A number of years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court dealt with a man named
Dowling, who sold "pirated" Elvis Presley recordings, and was
prosecuted for the Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property. The
Supremes did not condone his actions, but did make it clear that it
was not "theft" -- but technically "infringement" of the copyright
of the Presley estate, and therefore copyright law, and not anti-
theft statutes, had to be invoked." -- Mark Rasch at The Reg

But "piracy" is okay. (it conjures images of romantic heroes ;-) )

regards,
alexander.

 

[Pete Becker]

Pete Becker wrote:
[...]

Just plain theft.

Uhmm. Digital first sale aside for a moment,

"A number of years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court dealt with a man named
Dowling, who sold "pirated" Elvis Presley recordings, and was
prosecuted for the Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property. The
Supremes did not condone his actions, but did make it clear that it
was not "theft" -- but technically "infringement" of the copyright
of the Presley estate, and therefore copyright law, and not anti-
theft statutes, had to be invoked." -- Mark Rasch at The Reg

But "piracy" is okay. (it conjures images of romantic heroes ;-) )

Just plain theft.

 

[Alexander Terekhov]

Pete Becker wrote:
[...]

Just plain theft.

Uhmm. Digital first sale aside for a moment,

"A number of years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court dealt with a man named
Dowling, who sold "pirated" Elvis Presley recordings, and was
prosecuted for the Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property. The
Supremes did not condone his actions, but did make it clear that it
was not "theft" -- but technically "infringement" of the copyright
of the Presley estate, and therefore copyright law, and not anti-
theft statutes, had to be invoked." -- Mark Rasch at The Reg

But "piracy" is okay. (it conjures images of romantic heroes ;-) )

Just plain theft.

Minority opinion.

http://www.netjus.org/pages/giurisprudenzax.asp?article=12&pagina=10
("JUSTICE POWELL, with whom THE CHIEF JUSTICE and JUSTICE WHITE join,
dissenting. ...")

regards,
alexander.

 

[Pete Becker]

Pete Becker wrote:
[...]
Just plain theft.

Uhmm. Digital first sale aside for a moment,

"A number of years ago, the U.S. Supreme Court dealt with a man named
Dowling, who sold "pirated" Elvis Presley recordings, and was
prosecuted for the Interstate Transportation of Stolen Property. The
Supremes did not condone his actions, but did make it clear that it
was not "theft" -- but technically "infringement" of the copyright
of the Presley estate, and therefore copyright law, and not anti-
theft statutes, had to be invoked." -- Mark Rasch at The Reg

But "piracy" is okay. (it conjures images of romantic heroes ;-) )

Just plain theft.

Minority opinion.

http://www.netjus.org/pages/giurisprudenzax.asp?article=12&pagina=10
("JUSTICE POWELL, with whom THE CHIEF JUSTICE and JUSTICE WHITE join,
dissenting. ...")

Just plain theft. 18 USC 2314 is not the only statute that makes taking
things that don't belong to you a crime, fact free quotes from "Mark
Rasch at The Reg" notwithstanding.

 

[JKop]

Pete Becker posted:

Just plain theft. 18 USC 2314 is not the only statute that makes taking
things that don't belong to you a crime, fact free quotes from "Mark
Rasch at The Reg" notwithstanding.

Define "taking". I'm requesting that some-one supply me with a certain array
of bits. Alternatively I could acquire this array of bits for a hefty
unjustified price elsewhere. The former is more appealing.



JKop + @ + eircom + .net



-JKop

 

[Ioannis Vranos]

Pete Becker posted:




Define "taking". I'm requesting that some-one supply me with a certain array
of bits. Alternatively I could acquire this array of bits for a hefty
unjustified price elsewhere. The former is more appealing.



JKop + @ + eircom + .net

Have you checked altavista?

 

[JKop]

Have you checked altavista?

It hadn't even occured to me to try conventioal means! Bearshare hear I
come!

-JKop

 

[Ioannis Vranos]

It hadn't even occured to me to try conventioal means! Bearshare hear I
come!

http://www.altavista.com/web/results?q=iso+iec+14882+2003.pdf&kgs=0&kls=0

for example produces interesting results together with various buying
options.






Regards,

Ioannis Vranos

 

[Pete Becker]

I'm requesting that some-one supply me with a certain array
of bits. Alternatively I could acquire this array of bits for a hefty
unjustified price elsewhere. The former is more appealing.

Just plain theft.

 

[P.J. Plauger]

Pete Becker posted:


Define "taking". I'm requesting that some-one supply me with a certain array
of bits. Alternatively I could acquire this array of bits for a hefty
unjustified price elsewhere. The former is more appealing.

You've already gone on record as an unabashed thief. No need to
haggle over the definition of "taking" with *you*. I wouldn't
trust you around any collection of molecules I value, either.

P.J. Plauger
Dinkumware, Ltd.
http://www.dinkumware.com

 

[JKop]

Pete Becker posted:

Just plain theft.

Let's see. Theft is where someone-one deprives someone-else of a possession.
If I thieve your car, I am depriving you of your car.

If I copy your copy of the C++ Standard, am I depriving you of it? If not,
then that's not good old run-of-the-mill "plain theft". And if it is theft
at all, what label would you give it?

If I call it "Just plain love", is it better?


-JKop

 

[JKop]

P.J. Plauger posted:

You've already gone on record as an unabashed thief. No need to
haggle over the definition of "taking" with *you*. I wouldn't
trust you around any collection of molecules I value, either.

P.J. Plauger
Dinkumware, Ltd.
http://www.dinkumware.com

Of which record do you speak?

Your post is OFF-TOPIC here.

Perhaps you would be better off posting to one of the following:

alt.christnet.ethics
alt.magick.ethics


-JKop

 

[P.J. Plauger]

Pete Becker posted:


Let's see. Theft is where someone-one deprives someone-else of a possession.
If I thieve your car, I am depriving you of your car.

If I copy your copy of the C++ Standard, am I depriving you of it? If not,
then that's not good old run-of-the-mill "plain theft". And if it is theft
at all, what label would you give it?

If I call it "Just plain love", is it better?

Still just plain theft.

P.J. Plauger
Dinkumware, Ltd.
http://www.dinkumware.com

 

[JKop]

P.J. Plauger posted:

Still just plain theft.

Then I'm a thief, get over it.


-JKop

 

[Alexander Terekhov]

Pete Becker wrote:
[...]

Just plain theft. 18 USC 2314 is not the only statute that makes taking
things that don't belong to you a crime, fact free quotes from "Mark
Rasch at The Reg" notwithstanding.

Fact free? Go read the decision (starting at "pagina=1").

regards,
alexander.