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[thushianthan15]

Hi everyone,

I have to develop a web based enterprise application for my final year
project. Since i am interested in open source, i searched the net.
Almost 90% of them were PHP and MySQL. Cant we use python for that ? I
tried several sites, but there is not enough tutorial for beginners
[mod_python, PSP etc]. I couldnt find any detailed book, not even a
single book All the python books are covering only CGI part)

Any suggestions? Any recommended book?

Execuse my English.

Thushanthan.

 

[gordyt]

Howdy Thushanthan,

Here is one that is hot off the press:

The Definitive Guide to Django: Web Development Done Right
http://www.apress.com/book/view/1590597257

--gordon

 

[Matt Nordhoff]

Hi everyone,

I have to develop a web based enterprise application for my final year
project. Since i am interested in open source, i searched the net.
Almost 90% of them were PHP and MySQL. Cant we use python for that ? I
tried several sites, but there is not enough tutorial for beginners
[mod_python, PSP etc]. I couldnt find any detailed book, not even a
single book All the python books are covering only CGI part)

Any suggestions? Any recommended book?

Execuse my English.

Thushanthan.

Well, there are multiple different Python web frameworks, including
Django, Pylons, TurboGears and Zope (also the barebones CherryPy).
They're all much more high-level than PHP, including things like
database APIs and templating languages. Most/all of them have books or
at least good documentation and guides.

If you're doing something really simple (one web page, minimal DB usage,
whatever), you can use bare WSGI, perhaps like libraries like Beaker for
sessions.

Google all of the terms I used. There should be information available.
--

 

[Bruno Desthuilliers]

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Hi everyone,

I have to develop a web based enterprise application

"enterprise" ???

for my final year
project. Since i am interested in open source, i searched the net.
Almost 90% of them were PHP and MySQL. Cant we use python for that ?

Well, I don't know if *you* can, but as far as I'm concerned, that what
I do whenever possible !-)

I
tried several sites, but there is not enough tutorial for beginners
[mod_python, PSP etc]. I couldnt find any detailed book, not even a
single book All the python books are covering only CGI part)

Knowing CGI is certainly not the worst starting point wrt/ web
development - I whish more PHP 'programmers' had the minimal
understanding of the HTTP protocol required to write a CGI script (and
any serious web app FWIW).

Any suggestions?

Django or Pylons are probably what you're looking for. The first one is
the more mature, stable, and well documented, and the second one the
most promising IMHO. If you're new to both web development and Python,
I'd actually recommand Django.

Any recommended book?

The HTTP 1.1 RFC !-)

Execuse my English.

Seems fine to me - at least understandable, and that's the important
point, isn't it ?-)

 

[Steve Lianoglou]

It's also worthwhile to note that the apress django book listed is
also accessible free online here:

http://www.djangobook.com/en/1.0/

-steve

 

[David Van Mosselbeen]

Hi everyone,

I have to develop a web based enterprise application for my final year
project. Since i am interested in open source, i searched the net.
Almost 90% of them were PHP and MySQL. Cant we use python for that ? I
tried several sites, but there is not enough tutorial for beginners
[mod_python, PSP etc]. I couldnt find any detailed book, not even a
single book All the python books are covering only CGI part)

Any suggestions? Any recommended book?

Execuse my English.

Thushanthan.

You can also take a look to `webpy` and `cherrypy`. These where not yet
mentioned.

 

[Tamer Higazi]

http://www.djangobook.com/

if you love to read that book online. Otherwise, if you don't have DSL,
just mirror the site for offline usage with "wget"

Tamer

 

[Ivan Van Laningham]

Hi All--
Django is slick. I just yesterday picked up the book and started
poking away. Downloaded, Installed and running in about ten minutes
(I have several servers I can play with). Today I have several
working pages.

Use mod_python if you can.

<Django-mind-Beginner's-mind>-ly y'rs,
Ivan

http://www.djangobook.com/

if you love to read that book online. Otherwise, if you don't have DSL,
just mirror the site for offline usage with "wget"

Tamer

Hi everyone,

I have to develop a web based enterprise application for my final year
project. Since i am interested in open source, i searched the net.
Almost 90% of them were PHP and MySQL. Cant we use python for that ? I
tried several sites, but there is not enough tutorial for beginners
[mod_python, PSP etc]. I couldnt find any detailed book, not even a
single book All the python books are covering only CGI part)

Any suggestions? Any recommended book?

Execuse my English.

Thushanthan.

--
Ivan Van Laningham
God N Locomotive Works
http://www.pauahtun.org/
http://www.python.org/workshops/1998-11/proceedings/papers/laningham/laningham.html
Army Signal Corps: Cu Chi, Class of '70
Author: Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours

 

[Berco Beute]

Use mod_python if you can.

Although mod_python is fine, I had more success using fastcgi with
Django (you can run Django as a fastcgi process). It was less
troublesome to set up and the chances your hosting provider supports
it are bigger.

2B

 

[Ivan Van Laningham]

Hi All--
I didn't have any trouble setting up mod_python & Django. However, I
am my own hosting provider. That may make a difference. ;-)

I can install fastcgi if it's a big win.

Metta,
Ivan

Although mod_python is fine, I had more success using fastcgi with
Django (you can run Django as a fastcgi process). It was less
troublesome to set up and the chances your hosting provider supports
it are bigger.

2B

--
Ivan Van Laningham
God N Locomotive Works
http://www.pauahtun.org/
http://www.python.org/workshops/1998-11/proceedings/papers/laningham/laningham.html
Army Signal Corps: Cu Chi, Class of '70
Author: Teach Yourself Python in 24 Hours

 

[Tim Chase]

I didn't have any trouble setting up mod_python & Django. However, I

am my own hosting provider. That may make a difference. ;-)

I can install fastcgi if it's a big win.

From my understanding, the python-code under mod_python runs as
whatever Apaches runs as ("www", "wwwdata", whatever). If this
doesn't matter in your deployment, then there's little reason to
do anything other than stick with what you know.

The advantage of fastcgi (again, from my feeble understanding) is
that the fastcgi process (your python code) runs as a designated
user. This allows hosting companies to have your code run as
you, Pat's code run as Pat, etc. This makes separation of privs
a little easier so Pat's code doesn't screw up things your
environment, and your code doesn't screw up Pat's. Nothing
should really stop you from running your code as "www"/"wwwdata"
which would simulate the mod_python environment somewhat.

It's up to you to decide the magnitude of this "big" win

-tkc