Python spam?

Discussion in 'Python' started by Aahz, Nov 30, 2006.

  1. Aahz

    Aahz Guest

    Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    analysis proves they didn't send it).
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    Aahz, Nov 30, 2006
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  2. Aahz schrieb:
    > Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    > "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    > analysis proves they didn't send it).


    I'm getting spam not only from Barry, but also from myself ;-) with forged headers.
    But I'm not sure what you mean with Python-related... Not the contents, IIRC.

    Thomas
     
    Thomas Heller, Nov 30, 2006
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  3. Aahz

    Aahz Guest

    In article <>,
    Thomas Heller <> wrote:
    >Aahz schrieb:
    >>
    >> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    >> "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    >> analysis proves they didn't send it).

    >
    >I'm getting spam not only from Barry, but also from myself ;-) with
    >forged headers. But I'm not sure what you mean with Python-related...
    >Not the contents, IIRC.


    Thing is, I don't usually get spam "from" people I know (or at least it
    gets filtered before I see it), so someone is clearly using some resource
    of Python-related email addresses. Just seems rather odd, and I wonder
    whether it's some kind of DoS attack or what.
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    Aahz, Nov 30, 2006
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    Tim Peters Guest

    [Aahz]
    >>> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    >>> "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    >>> analysis proves they didn't send it).


    [Thomas Heller]
    >> I'm getting spam not only from Barry, but also from myself ;-) with
    >> forged headers. But I'm not sure what you mean with Python-related...
    >> Not the contents, IIRC.


    [Aahz[
    > Thing is, I don't usually get spam "from" people I know (or at least it
    > gets filtered before I see it), so someone is clearly using some resource
    > of Python-related email addresses. Just seems rather odd, and I wonder
    > whether it's some kind of DoS attack or what.


    It's been going on for years. The most frequent forged "Python
    related" sender address I've seen is actually ,
    followed (but not closely) by /F's . Spammers
    harvest legit addresses to forge via scraping web pages and via
    Trojans scouring newbies' address books. The latter probably accounts
    for the very high rate of forgeries. Via the former,
    anyone with a "public" email address can expect to see it get forged
    sooner or later.

    About two years ago I sent a polite email to a porn vendor asking them
    to please stop forging one of my email addresses as the sender of
    their spam. They didn't reply, but within a few days I stopped
    receiving porn spam claiming to come from me. Frankly, I miss it :)
     
    Tim Peters, Nov 30, 2006
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  5. "Aahz" <> wrote:

    > Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    > "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    > analysis proves they didn't send it).
    > --


    not like that - just the normal crud from people giving me get rich quick tips
    on the stock market that is aimed at mobilising my money to follow theirs to
    help influence the price of a share...

    - Hendrik
     
    Hendrik van Rooyen, Dec 1, 2006
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  6. Tim Peters wrote:

    > It's been going on for years. The most frequent forged "Python
    > related" sender address I've seen is actually ,
    > followed (but not closely) by /F's . Spammers
    > harvest legit addresses to forge via scraping web pages and via
    > Trojans scouring newbies' address books.


    when you get this kind of "clustering" effect, chances are that
    it's a trojan on someone's computer that's actually sending the mails,
    using mail addresses found on the infected computer (address books and
    browser caches are good sources for this).

    (so in your cases, it's probably just some poor python-dev reader who
    hasn't updated his virus checker lately...)

    </F>
     
    Fredrik Lundh, Dec 1, 2006
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  7. Aahz

    Guest

    aahz> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen
    aahz> messages "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of
    aahz> course header analysis proves they didn't send it).

    I blacklisted Barry long ago. He's probably sending out spam in my name in
    retaliation. ;-)

    Skip
     
    , Dec 1, 2006
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  8. Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:
    > "Aahz" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >> Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    >> "from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    >> analysis proves they didn't send it).
    >> --
    >>

    >
    > not like that - just the normal crud from people giving me get rich quick tips
    > on the stock market that is aimed at mobilising my money to follow theirs to
    > help influence the price of a share...
    >
    > - Hendrik
    >
    >
    >

    ....which I noticed works amazingly well in many cases, looking at the
    charts. which, again, means that the trick isn't likely to fizzle out
    soon as others have with victims getting wise to it. Getting feathers
    plucked in this game isn't a turn-off. It's an opportunity to join the
    pluckers by speeding up one's turnover at the expense of the slowpokes.
    Like pyramid sales this it is a self-generating market.
    This game, at least, isn't unethical, other than clogging the
    internet with reckless traffic. I've been asking myself why it seems so
    difficult to backtrace such obtrusive, if not criminal, traffic to the
    source and squash it there. Perhaps some knowledgeable volunteer would
    share his insights. Perhaps stalking con artists could be another
    interest group.

    Frederic
     
    Frederic Rentsch, Dec 1, 2006
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    John Draper Guest

    Hendrik van Rooyen wrote:

    >"Aahz" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>Anyone else getting "Python-related" spam? So far, I've seen messages
    >>"from" Barry Warsaw and Skip Montanaro (although of course header
    >>analysis proves they didn't send it).
    >>--
    >>
    >>

    >
    >not like that - just the normal crud from people giving me get rich quick tips
    >on the stock market that is aimed at mobilising my money to follow theirs to
    >help influence the price of a share...
    >
    >- Hendrik
    >
    >
    >
    >

    I'm ALWAYS getting python spam.... but what worries me, is the spammers
    Know my personal home address, and I NEVER EVER fill out any forms pages
    with my personal info - I think I'm being harrassed by hackers or
    something...

    John
     
    John Draper, Dec 4, 2006
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  10. At Monday 4/12/2006 16:27, John Draper wrote:

    >I'm ALWAYS getting python spam.... but what worries me, is the spammers
    >Know my personal home address, and I NEVER EVER fill out any forms pages
    >with my personal info - I think I'm being harrassed by hackers or
    >something...


    - UserA creates an account on SiteA. They ask for an email address
    for validation purposes, or perhaps they use that email address as
    login name, which is fine so one doesn't have to remember another
    login. So, UserA fills in his Hotmail/Yahoo/whatever email.
    - UserA provides the *same* password on the site as used on his email
    address. Which is fine so one doesn't have to remember many passwords.
    - Now, SiteA has full access to UserA's address book (and inbox,
    and... but usually they're not interested on that).

    Notice that SiteA actually is not "hacking" UserA Hotmail account,
    nor is a virus involved, nothing is installed on UserA's PC, there is
    no vulnerability exploited on Hotmail's code, no
    antivirus/antispyware will help, nothing. It's just UserA silly
    enough to let others know his webmail password.

    So if a friend of yours has played the role of UserA above, that's
    how some spammers got your email address.


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    Softlab SRL

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    Gabriel Genellina, Dec 5, 2006
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  11. "Gabriel Genellina" <> wrote:

    8<--------------------------

    So if a friend of yours has played the role of UserA above, that's
    how some spammers got your email address.

    + 1 for euphemism of the month...

    - Hendrik
     
    Hendrik van Rooyen, Dec 5, 2006
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