Re: quickest way to a programming job

Discussion in 'Java' started by Doug, Jun 28, 2003.

  1. Doug

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    It's extremely difficult to find a development position with a college
    degree right now. Very few employers are even going to interview someone off
    the street who claims to have development skills without some sort of
    confirmation. A degree in CS/EE/CE (that's computer engineering, not civil
    or chemical) is one way of proving you have at least some modicum of
    knowledge. Years of experience is another. A working prototype of some code
    is a third, provided you can prove you and you alone wrote the code.

    If you have neither development experience nor industry experience, I rate
    your chances of finding a development position at slim to none. There are
    too many experienced developers out there looking for work for someone
    without experience snagging the gig.

    Take your lumps, go to school. Then in 4 years the economy may be such that
    you can find a gig.

    As for "wasting the next 4-5 years", you get what you put into it. If you
    resent having to spend time educating yourself, you will not do well in
    school. Think of it as an investment in your future. You never know, you
    might find a different line of work that you never heard of before you went
    to school. You might find life-long friends or a contact who ends up helping
    you get the perfect job. You might be so lucky as to find the person you end
    up spending the rest of your life with.

    I would examine why you want to "get a job programming ASAP". Is it because
    you love to code? If so, you should already have contacts with other uber
    geeks who love to code. Ask them who is hiring. Is it because you think
    development is the next big step up from tech support and they get the big
    bucks? Is money or status your motivation? Don't forget that in almost every
    dev position you have those hours/days/weeks of intense pressure to finish
    the code, debug the code, ship the code.

    Development is one of the most intense and intellectually satisfying
    experiences. If you enjoy mental challenges, you will love to develop.
    There's that point at about 1am where you suddenly realize what is causing a
    bug, fix a line or 12 of code, then let out a whoop. Unfortunately everyone
    else left 4 hours earlier, so you have no one to explain your mental
    breakthrough to. When you explain it to your spouse when you get home they
    just give you that "That's nice honey, go to sleep" response.


    "happyrav" <> wrote in message
    > For those of you who work as programmers, what is your opinion of
    > college education vs. self education? Does it come down to convincing
    > an employer to hire you by showing him some programs you wrote?
    > I want to get a job programming ASAP without wasting the next 4-5
    > years of my life going to college.
    > I learned enough about computers on my own to have been doing tech
    > support for the last 4 years, sometimes making more money than my
    > parents, with only a high school diploma. Am I just lucky, or can you
    > still make it in the Industry with out a time consuming degree?
    Doug, Jun 28, 2003
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