Record density of crud and spam

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CBFalconer

This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.
 
K

Keith Thompson

CBFalconer said:
This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.

And you felt the need to cross-post this to comp.arch.embedded,
comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and
alt.folklore.computers? In which of these is it topical? Did you
consider the possibility that you could be starting a multi-group
off-topic flame war?

(Thunderbird doesn't seem to want to let me cross-post this followup,
which is just as well. Followups redirected to alt.dev.null.)
 
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Default User

CBFalconer said:
This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

Mine had no unusal activity. Perhaps you should get a better newsreader.

Now, let's talk about you massively cross-posting this, the setting
follow-ups to comp.programming. What the HELL was that about. Don't do
crap like that.



Brian
 
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CBFalconer

Keith said:
And you felt the need to cross-post this to comp.arch.embedded,
comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and
alt.folklore.computers? In which of these is it topical? Did
you consider the possibility that you could be starting a
multi-group off-topic flame war?

And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
set to comp.programming. The presence of off-topic spam is topical
on all the groups. Algorithms to deal with it are topical on
comp.programming.
 
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Richard

CBFalconer said:
This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.

Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
signatures for the umpteenth time.
 
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Flash Gordon

CBFalconer wrote, On 18/11/07 06:45:
And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
set to comp.programming. The presence of off-topic spam is topical
on all the groups.

Maybe, but the presence or absence of spam in alt.folklore.computers is
*not* topical in comp.lang.c and so on.

IMHO you were wrong to cross-post this due to topicality issues and the
risk that Keith mentioned.
Algorithms to deal with it are topical on
comp.programming.

So post about such algorithms there not here.
 
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Default User

CBFalconer wrote:

And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
set to comp.programming.

That's worse than the cross-posting. If a message is proper for a
newsgroup, then so are the replies. What are people supposed to do, go
a subscribe to a newsgroup they don't normally follow?

Bad move.



Brian
 
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Peter Köhlmann

Richard said:
Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
signatures for the umpteenth time.

Hi Hadron Quark.

Nymshifting again, I see

So what nym will be next, Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka
Damian O'Leary?
 
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Trevor Best

Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
signatures for the umpteenth time.

There's a dead wildebeest over there wants flogging when you've
finished with that horse. :)
 
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Richard

Flash Gordon said:
CBFalconer wrote, On 18/11/07 06:45:

off-topic spam is on topic for all the groups?

So those of us who know how to configure spam traps at the nntp local
server and so forth and so hardly ever see spam have to get deluged
because people like you discuss that very same SPAM? Do you have any
idea how ridiculous this notion of yours is? For someone who is so keen
on what and how people post, you do not appear to level the same
criteria to when posting your own officious nonsense.
 
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Roy Culley

Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your
double signatures for the umpteenth time.

Now't wrong with his .sig. The fact that teranews adds a second one is
hardly his fault. Any decent newsreader will strip everything after
the first '-- ' line.
 
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CBFalconer

Richard said:
Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your
double signatures for the umpteenth time.

Please refrain from deliberately ignoring follow-ups, and from
failing to snip sigs.
 
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Old Wolf

This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

I don't know what gave you the idea that anybody cares,
or that this is topical in c.l.c .
 
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Trevor Best

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:52:24 +0100
Now't wrong with his .sig. The fact that teranews adds a second one is
hardly his fault. Any decent newsreader will strip everything after
the first '-- ' line.

Some snip only after the last "-- " line so the user has to trim it
manually, bit like using OE really, poor sods :)
 
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Michael Black

Trevor said:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:52:24 +0100


Some snip only after the last "-- " line so the user has to trim it
manually, bit like using OE really, poor sods :)
This is a completely irrelevant issue.

The original poster decided it was acceptable for his comment
about spam to be cross-posted to
comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.c
comp.programming
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
alt.folklore.computers

It has no relevance to any of them, and really there is no
connection between any of these newsgroups.

So he's complaining about junk in the newsgroups, but adds to
the issue by posting.

It's not even clear what he's mumbling about, because where
I'm reading it I don't see the junk. Is it his newsserver that's
not filtering, or is it that the other newsgroups that he felt
this post should be cross-posted to are seeing a lot of junk? But
if that's the case, why did he post it to the newsgroup where I'm
reading this?

Michael
 
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CBFalconer

Michael said:
.... snip ...

The original poster decided it was acceptable for his comment
about spam to be cross-posted to
comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.c
comp.programming
alt.os.linux.ubuntu
alt.folklore.computers

It has no relevance to any of them, and really there is no
connection between any of these newsgroups.

The original was posted with follow-up set to comp.programming.
The idea was to see if others were experiencing similar levels, and
what, if anything, could be done about it. Note that topicality,
and thus spam handling, is always on-topic. All responses should
have been on comp.programming, and only deliberate avoidance of the
follow-up has put anything on any other newsgroups.

The original message has produced none of the desired responses.
 
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CBFalconer

Default said:
That's worse than the cross-posting. If a message is proper for a
newsgroup, then so are the replies. What are people supposed to do,
go a subscribe to a newsgroup they don't normally follow?

I disagree. People can respond, with no problems. If they want to
follow any discussion, yes they need to move to the appropriate
newsgroup. At least that was the plan.
 
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Default User

CBFalconer said:
I disagree. People can respond, with no problems. If they want to
follow any discussion, yes they need to move to the appropriate
newsgroup. At least that was the plan.

It was a dumb plan. Dumb with a capital UMB.

It's not up to you to determine where my posts should go. If the topic
was only appropriate for comp.programming (and I can't make that
connection) then that should have been the ONLY newsgroup you posted to.

You were wrong. You were off-topic. You inappropriately cross-posted.
You inappropriatedly set follow-ups. You owe apologies to all the
newsgroups involved.



Brian
 

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