Record density of crud and spam

Discussion in 'C Programming' started by CBFalconer, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

    It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
    moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
    US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.

    --
    Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    Try the download section.


    --
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    CBFalconer, Nov 15, 2007
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  2. CBFalconer wrote:
    > This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    > was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    > least cuts the spam down to livable levels.
    >
    > It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
    > moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
    > US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.


    And you felt the need to cross-post this to comp.arch.embedded,
    comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and
    alt.folklore.computers? In which of these is it topical? Did you
    consider the possibility that you could be starting a multi-group
    off-topic flame war?

    (Thunderbird doesn't seem to want to let me cross-post this followup,
    which is just as well. Followups redirected to alt.dev.null.)

    --
    Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) <>
    Looking for software development work in the San Diego area.
    "We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
    -- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"
    Keith Thompson, Nov 17, 2007
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  3. CBFalconer

    Default User Guest

    CBFalconer wrote:

    > This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    > was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    > least cuts the spam down to livable levels.


    Mine had no unusal activity. Perhaps you should get a better newsreader.

    Now, let's talk about you massively cross-posting this, the setting
    follow-ups to comp.programming. What the HELL was that about. Don't do
    crap like that.



    Brian
    Default User, Nov 18, 2007
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  4. CBFalconer

    Default User Guest

    Default User wrote:

    > CBFalconer wrote:
    >
    > > This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    > > was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    > > least cuts the spam down to livable levels.

    >
    > Mine had no unusal activity. Perhaps you should get a better
    > newsreader.


    Bah, I meant news service.



    Brian
    Default User, Nov 18, 2007
    #4
  5. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    Keith Thompson wrote:
    > CBFalconer wrote:
    >
    >> This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    >> was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    >> least cuts the spam down to livable levels.
    >>
    >> It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day.
    >> The moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured
    >> on the US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.

    >
    > And you felt the need to cross-post this to comp.arch.embedded,
    > comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and
    > alt.folklore.computers? In which of these is it topical? Did
    > you consider the possibility that you could be starting a
    > multi-group off-topic flame war?


    And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
    set to comp.programming. The presence of off-topic spam is topical
    on all the groups. Algorithms to deal with it are topical on
    comp.programming.

    --
    Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    Try the download section.



    --
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    CBFalconer, Nov 18, 2007
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  6. CBFalconer

    Richard Guest

    CBFalconer <> writes:

    > This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    > was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    > least cuts the spam down to livable levels.
    >
    > It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
    > moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
    > US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.
    >
    > --
    > Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    > <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    > Try the download section.


    Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
    signatures for the umpteenth time.
    Richard, Nov 18, 2007
    #6
  7. On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:50:39 +0100, Richard <>
    wrote:

    >CBFalconer <> writes:
    >
    >> This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    >> was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    >> least cuts the spam down to livable levels.
    >>
    >> It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
    >> moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
    >> US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    >> <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    >> Try the download section.

    >
    >Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
    >signatures for the umpteenth time.


    Please don't feed the troll.



    Richard Harter,
    http://home.tiac.net/~cri, http://www.varinoma.com
    In the fields of Hell where the grass grows high
    Are the graves of dreams allowed to die
    Richard Harter, Nov 18, 2007
    #7
  8. CBFalconer

    Flash Gordon Guest

    CBFalconer wrote, On 18/11/07 06:45:
    > Keith Thompson wrote:
    >> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>
    >>> This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This


    <snip>

    >> And you felt the need to cross-post this to comp.arch.embedded,
    >> comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and
    >> alt.folklore.computers? In which of these is it topical? Did
    >> you consider the possibility that you could be starting a
    >> multi-group off-topic flame war?

    >
    > And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
    > set to comp.programming. The presence of off-topic spam is topical
    > on all the groups.


    Maybe, but the presence or absence of spam in alt.folklore.computers is
    *not* topical in comp.lang.c and so on.

    IMHO you were wrong to cross-post this due to topicality issues and the
    risk that Keith mentioned.

    > Algorithms to deal with it are topical on
    > comp.programming.


    So post about such algorithms there not here.
    --
    Flash Gordon
    Flash Gordon, Nov 18, 2007
    #8
  9. CBFalconer

    Default User Guest

    CBFalconer wrote:


    > And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
    > set to comp.programming.


    That's worse than the cross-posting. If a message is proper for a
    newsgroup, then so are the replies. What are people supposed to do, go
    a subscribe to a newsgroup they don't normally follow?

    Bad move.



    Brian
    Default User, Nov 18, 2007
    #9
  10. Richard wrote:

    > CBFalconer <> writes:
    >
    >> This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    >> was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    >> least cuts the spam down to livable levels.
    >>
    >> It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
    >> moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
    >> US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.
    >>
    >> --
    >> Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    >> <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    >> Try the download section.

    >
    > Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
    > signatures for the umpteenth time.


    Hi Hadron Quark.

    Nymshifting again, I see

    So what nym will be next, Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Richard, aka
    Damian O'Leary?
    --
    "Against stupidity, the very gods themselves contend in vain."
    Friedrich Schiller
    Peter Köhlmann, Nov 18, 2007
    #10
  11. CBFalconer

    Trevor Best Guest

    On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 16:50:39 +0100
    Richard <> wrote:

    > Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your double
    > signatures for the umpteenth time.


    There's a dead wildebeest over there wants flogging when you've
    finished with that horse. :)

    --
    If you can do ballet then you can do anything
    except reach high things because you're dinky.
    Kiera Best - Aged 6.
    Trevor Best, Nov 18, 2007
    #11
  12. CBFalconer

    Richard Guest

    Flash Gordon <> writes:

    > CBFalconer wrote, On 18/11/07 06:45:
    >> Keith Thompson wrote:
    >>> CBFalconer wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This

    >
    > <snip>
    >
    >>> And you felt the need to cross-post this to comp.arch.embedded,
    >>> comp.lang.c, comp.programming, alt.os.linux.ubuntu, and
    >>> alt.folklore.computers? In which of these is it topical? Did
    >>> you consider the possibility that you could be starting a
    >>> multi-group off-topic flame war?

    >>
    >> And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
    >> set to comp.programming. The presence of off-topic spam is topical
    >> on all the groups.


    off-topic spam is on topic for all the groups?

    So those of us who know how to configure spam traps at the nntp local
    server and so forth and so hardly ever see spam have to get deluged
    because people like you discuss that very same SPAM? Do you have any
    idea how ridiculous this notion of yours is? For someone who is so keen
    on what and how people post, you do not appear to level the same
    criteria to when posting your own officious nonsense.
    Richard, Nov 18, 2007
    #12
  13. CBFalconer

    Roy Culley Guest

    <>,
    Richard <> writes:
    >
    > Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your
    > double signatures for the umpteenth time.


    Now't wrong with his .sig. The fact that teranews adds a second one is
    hardly his fault. Any decent newsreader will strip everything after
    the first '-- ' line.
    Roy Culley, Nov 18, 2007
    #13
  14. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    Richard wrote:
    > CBFalconer <> writes:
    >
    >> This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    >> was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    >> least cuts the spam down to livable levels.
    >>
    >> It is interesting how this ratio varies with the time of day. The
    >> moles seem to be most active early in the day, as measured on the
    >> US east coast. At times I may get zero interceptions.

    >
    > Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your
    > double signatures for the umpteenth time.


    Please refrain from deliberately ignoring follow-ups, and from
    failing to snip sigs.

    --
    Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    Try the download section.


    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
    CBFalconer, Nov 18, 2007
    #14
  15. CBFalconer

    Old Wolf Guest

    On Nov 16, 2:57 am, CBFalconer <> wrote:
    > This morning my newgroups download contained 110 messages. This
    > was after the PLONK filters had removed 145 messages. This at
    > least cuts the spam down to livable levels.


    I don't know what gave you the idea that anybody cares,
    or that this is topical in c.l.c .
    Old Wolf, Nov 18, 2007
    #15
  16. CBFalconer

    Trevor Best Guest

    On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:52:24 +0100
    (Roy Culley) wrote:

    > <>,
    > Richard <> writes:
    > >
    > > Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your
    > > double signatures for the umpteenth time.

    >
    > Now't wrong with his .sig. The fact that teranews adds a second one is
    > hardly his fault. Any decent newsreader will strip everything after
    > the first '-- ' line.


    Some snip only after the last "-- " line so the user has to trim it
    manually, bit like using OE really, poor sods :)

    --
    If you can do ballet then you can do anything
    except reach high things because you're dinky.
    Kiera Best - Aged 6.
    Trevor Best, Nov 19, 2007
    #16
  17. Trevor Best () writes:
    > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 23:52:24 +0100
    > (Roy Culley) wrote:
    >
    >> <>,
    >> Richard <> writes:
    >> >
    >> > Please. No one is interested in your spam. And please fix your
    >> > double signatures for the umpteenth time.

    >>
    >> Now't wrong with his .sig. The fact that teranews adds a second one is
    >> hardly his fault. Any decent newsreader will strip everything after
    >> the first '-- ' line.

    >
    > Some snip only after the last "-- " line so the user has to trim it
    > manually, bit like using OE really, poor sods :)
    >

    This is a completely irrelevant issue.

    The original poster decided it was acceptable for his comment
    about spam to be cross-posted to
    comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.c
    comp.programming
    alt.os.linux.ubuntu
    alt.folklore.computers

    It has no relevance to any of them, and really there is no
    connection between any of these newsgroups.

    So he's complaining about junk in the newsgroups, but adds to
    the issue by posting.

    It's not even clear what he's mumbling about, because where
    I'm reading it I don't see the junk. Is it his newsserver that's
    not filtering, or is it that the other newsgroups that he felt
    this post should be cross-posted to are seeing a lot of junk? But
    if that's the case, why did he post it to the newsgroup where I'm
    reading this?

    Michael
    Michael Black, Nov 19, 2007
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  18. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    Michael Black wrote:
    >

    .... snip ...
    >
    > The original poster decided it was acceptable for his comment
    > about spam to be cross-posted to
    > comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.c
    > comp.programming
    > alt.os.linux.ubuntu
    > alt.folklore.computers
    >
    > It has no relevance to any of them, and really there is no
    > connection between any of these newsgroups.


    The original was posted with follow-up set to comp.programming.
    The idea was to see if others were experiencing similar levels, and
    what, if anything, could be done about it. Note that topicality,
    and thus spam handling, is always on-topic. All responses should
    have been on comp.programming, and only deliberate avoidance of the
    follow-up has put anything on any other newsgroups.

    The original message has produced none of the desired responses.

    --
    Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    Try the download section.



    --
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    CBFalconer, Nov 19, 2007
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  19. CBFalconer

    CBFalconer Guest

    Default User wrote:
    > CBFalconer wrote:
    >
    >> And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
    >> set to comp.programming.

    >
    > That's worse than the cross-posting. If a message is proper for a
    > newsgroup, then so are the replies. What are people supposed to do,
    > go a subscribe to a newsgroup they don't normally follow?


    I disagree. People can respond, with no problems. If they want to
    follow any discussion, yes they need to move to the appropriate
    newsgroup. At least that was the plan.

    --
    Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
    <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
    Try the download section.



    --
    Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
    CBFalconer, Nov 19, 2007
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  20. CBFalconer

    Default User Guest

    CBFalconer wrote:

    > Default User wrote:
    > > CBFalconer wrote:
    > >
    > >> And you didn't bother to notice that follow-ups had already been
    > >> set to comp.programming.

    > >
    > > That's worse than the cross-posting. If a message is proper for a
    > > newsgroup, then so are the replies. What are people supposed to do,
    > > go a subscribe to a newsgroup they don't normally follow?

    >
    > I disagree. People can respond, with no problems. If they want to
    > follow any discussion, yes they need to move to the appropriate
    > newsgroup. At least that was the plan.


    It was a dumb plan. Dumb with a capital UMB.

    It's not up to you to determine where my posts should go. If the topic
    was only appropriate for comp.programming (and I can't make that
    connection) then that should have been the ONLY newsgroup you posted to.

    You were wrong. You were off-topic. You inappropriately cross-posted.
    You inappropriatedly set follow-ups. You owe apologies to all the
    newsgroups involved.



    Brian
    Default User, Nov 19, 2007
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