req help: correct this code

[net]

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this page:
http://www.writers4management.com\index-old.htm
doesn't work properly in Netscape, and I've tried it in both v4.7 and 7.1.
The e-mail links 'info at writers4management dot com' and 'here'- near the
bottom of the page are dead, however they work fine in IE, and I've tested
it in IE v5.00 to v6/SP1.
I tried using CSE HTML Validator v6.01 and it found a few errors which I
corrected but that still didn't solve the problem.
Can anyone see what the error is? Thanks for any help.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven named net:

also posted to alt.html.critique
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Multipost: Bad
Crosspost: Ok when necessary (but not this time)

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

this page:
http://www.writers4management.com\index-old.htm
doesn't work properly in Netscape, and I've tried it in both v4.7 and 7.1.
The e-mail links 'info at writers4management dot com' and 'here'- near the
bottom of the page are dead, however they work fine in IE, and I've tested
it in IE v5.00 to v6/SP1.
I tried using CSE HTML Validator v6.01 and it found a few errors which I
corrected but that still didn't solve the problem.
Can anyone see what the error is? Thanks for any help.

I had a look at your page, found so much Microcrap that I decided
against trying to weed out any errors. Besides, it fails to validate:
<http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=h...automatically)&doctype=HTML+4.01+Transitional>
...and this is after I selected the least stringent of doctypes.

Your page also does not fit in my browser window.
http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?AnySizeDesign

 

[altamir]

this page:
http://www.writers4management.com\index-old.htm
doesn't work properly in Netscape, and I've tried it in both v4.7 and
7.1. The e-mail links 'info at writers4management dot com' and 'here'-
near the bottom of the page are dead, however they work fine in IE,
and I've tested it in IE v5.00 to v6/SP1.

They're dead in IE5.5/win with font size set to medium.

I tried using CSE HTML Validator v6.01 and it found a few errors which
I corrected but that still didn't solve the problem.

Why don't you use W3C validator?

Can anyone see what the error is?

It's FrontPage.

 

[net]

They're dead in IE5.5/win with font size set to medium.


Why don't you use W3C validator?

I did. It said first said there was a problem with the Document declaration.
I changed this and then on retest W3 validator said it couldn't process the
page for some other reason, which is where I gave up...

It's FrontPage.

you mean making the code with Frontpage was the error?

 

[net]

Quoth the raven named net:


Multipost: Bad
Crosspost: Ok when necessary (but not this time)

http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html


I had a look at your page, found so much Microcrap that I decided
against trying to weed out any errors.

thanks for your feedback Beauregard, I agree the the code is so heavily
Microcrap'd I've decided it's best to scrap it completely and rebuild the
pages with friendlier cross-browser retro code.

 

[Mark Parnell]

Sometime around Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:03:24 -0000, net is reported to have
stated:

thanks for your feedback Beauregard, I agree the the code is so heavily
Microcrap'd I've decided it's best to scrap it completely and rebuild the

Definitely. That means not in Frontpage.

pages with friendlier cross-browser retro code.

Retro code? I hope you don't mean lots of deprecated presentational markup?

 

[altamir]

I did. It said first said there was a problem with the Document
declaration. I changed this and then on retest W3 validator said it
couldn't process the page for some other reason, which is where I gave
up...

You gave up to soon. If you have problems with validator, you can always
ask people here. I'm sure they'll gladly help.

you mean making the code with Frontpage was the error?

That's what I mean. FP is the *worst* choice to make web pages. If you
really have to use WYSIWYGs try something else, maybe Macromedia
Dreamweaver? But if you think about making web pages seriously - get some
decent text editor and start learning HTML, XHTML and CSS.

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven named altamir:

That's what I mean. FP is the *worst* choice to make web pages.

May I introduce you to Microsoft Word?

 

[net]

That's what I mean. FP is the *worst* choice to make web pages. If you
really have to use WYSIWYGs try something else, maybe Macromedia
Dreamweaver? But if you think about making web pages seriously - get some
decent text editor and start learning HTML, XHTML and CSS.

actually, I didn't design the site, someone else did but I was asked to take
a look and troubleshoot some problems with it. I decided in the end that the
code needed replacing completely, right from scratch. Fortunately I use
Dreamweaver and it all had a happy ending...

 

[net]

Sometime around Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:03:24 -0000, net is reported to have
stated:

Retro code? I hope you don't mean lots of deprecated presentational

markup?

eh?

 

[rf]

Quoth the raven named altamir:


May I introduce you to Microsoft Word?

Piffle. Use a real HTML editor: Microsoft Excel

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/excel.html

Be sure to view source:

view-source:http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/excel.html

Cheers
Richard.

 

[Nico Schuyt]

That's what I mean. FP is the *worst* choice to make web pages. If you
really have to use WYSIWYGs try something else, maybe Macromedia
Dreamweaver?

My requirements for the perfect editor are:
- a good stylesheet editor
and - allows editing in wysiwyg
and - enables applying styles from (multiple) internal- or external
stylesheets
and - has good support of PHP
and - built in validator
and - built in spell checker
and - format selected paragraphs into a list and the other way around
and - paste text from applications like Word as plain paragraps
and - add width and height properties to an imported image and change them
on refresh when the source image has changed
and - translates ASCII into HTML-characters
and - checks for broken links
and - is not too expensive

Until now I haven't found a better editor than FP.
What's your alternative based on the requirements above?

But if you think about making web pages seriously - get

some decent text editor and start learning HTML, XHTML and CSS.

I think I make web pages seriously (With FP)

Nico

 

[Nico Schuyt]

altamir wrote

actually, I didn't design the site, someone else did but I was asked
to take a look and troubleshoot some problems with it. I decided in
the end that the code needed replacing completely, right from
scratch. Fortunately I use Dreamweaver and it all had a happy
ending...

There's *no* relation between an editor and the quality of coding.
Compare it to a camera. An expert can make professional pictures with a
camera of $10. An amateur with a Nikon D1X will still not be able to produce
good quality.

Nico

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven named rf:

Piffle. Use a real HTML editor: Microsoft Excel

http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/excel.html

Be sure to view source:

view-source:http://users.bigpond.net.au/rf/excel.html

Yuck. Tho I think it's a tossup.

This is not my site:
http://home.att.net/~karinschoolofdance/

 

[Joel Shepherd]

Quoth the raven named altamir:


May I introduce you to Microsoft Word?

May I introduce *you* to Microsoft Publisher?

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven named Joel Shepherd:

May I introduce *you* to Microsoft Publisher?

No, you may not. <g>

Yeah, I know it's just as bad as Word. For giggles, I turned on my old
Pub 97 and generated a page or two. That version wasn't quite as bad
as Word...

 

[Joel Shepherd]

I turned on my old Pub 97 and generated a page or two. That version
wasn't quite as bad as Word...

Publisher may have gone downhill since. Any pages I've seen generated
by it have basically been one big JPEG.

Of course, in terms of signal-to-noise that still might be an
improvement over Word.

 

[altamir]

My requirements for the perfect editor are:
- a good stylesheet editor
and - allows editing in wysiwyg
and - enables applying styles from (multiple) internal- or external
stylesheets
and - has good support of PHP
and - built in validator
and - built in spell checker
and - format selected paragraphs into a list and the other way around
and - paste text from applications like Word as plain paragraps
and - add width and height properties to an imported image and change
them on refresh when the source image has changed
and - translates ASCII into HTML-characters
and - checks for broken links
and - is not too expensive

Until now I haven't found a better editor than FP.
What's your alternative based on the requirements above?

My skills + text editor + server-side scripting + online services.

I think I make web pages seriously (With FP)

Ok, but I don't consider FP as a serious WYSIWYG tool. It's rather
amateurish.

 

[altamir]

actually, I didn't design the site, someone else did but I was asked
to take a look and troubleshoot some problems with it. I decided in
the end that the code needed replacing completely, right from scratch.
Fortunately I use Dreamweaver and it all had a happy ending...

I would do the same. There's nothing worse than maintaing someone else's
badly written code.

 

[Nico Schuyt]

Nico Schuyt wrote

My skills + text editor + server-side scripting + online services.

Sounds great! Where can i download a trial version?
Nico