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[windandwaves]

Hi Folk

Can you please give me some feedback on http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes

The investment page is not completed yet.

If you want to read the source code then I recommend you use firebug.

Thanks a million

Nicolaas

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:28:57
GMT windandwaves scribed:

Hi Folk

Can you please give me some feedback on
http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes

The investment page is not completed yet.

If you want to read the source code then I recommend you use firebug.

Looks aesthetic on opening. I'd slow-down the Flash.

Wouldn't mind being indulged more visually... <grin>

 

[dorayme]

Can you please give me some feedback on
http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes

The repetitive centre animation is very irritating. There is no
point to it. In fact it is so irritating that I cannot
concentrate to go on to say things, I am not even sure how to
stop the thing?

 

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

Hi Folk

Can you please give me some feedback on http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes

That shouldn't be an afterthought. Avoid fixed [px] widths and
font sizes from the start and you will have fewer problems.

The investment page is not completed yet.

If you want to read the source code then I recommend you use firebug.

I recommend you use something better to write your code. A single
5K line is absurd.

 

[windandwaves]

The repetitive centre animation is very irritating. There is no
point to it. In fact it is so irritating that I cannot
concentrate to go on to say things, I am not even sure how to
stop the thing?

Thanks - that is a good point..... ! Will change

 

[windandwaves]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:28:57
GMT windandwaves scribed:







Looks aesthetic on opening. I'd slow-down the Flash.

Wouldn't mind being indulged more visually... <grin>

Thanks - much appreciated.... I will try do something about it ;-)

 

[windandwaves]

The repetitive centre animation is very irritating. There is no
point to it. In fact it is so irritating that I cannot
concentrate to go on to say things, I am not even sure how to
stop the thing?

Do you like the new one better?

 

[windandwaves]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 16 Jul 2007 01:28:57
GMT windandwaves scribed:







Looks aesthetic on opening. I'd slow-down the Flash.

Wouldn't mind being indulged more visually... <grin>

I thought about your comment a bit more. I guess the idea of the site
is that you need to do a bit of discovery. We show these tiny
thumbnails and then let people click on them to see more.... The site
has over 160 pics you can discover...

 

[windandwaves]

Hi Folk

Can you please give me some feedback onhttp://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes

That shouldn't be an afterthought. Avoid fixed [px] widths and
font sizes from the start and you will have fewer problems.

i will work on that soon!

I recommend you use something better to write your code. A single
5K line is absurd.

Totally agree, it is generated by a database I use to construct all
the pages as HTML - I then upload them. Works a treat. I dont worry
too much about having them as single lines.

 

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

Can you please give me some feedback onhttp://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes

That shouldn't be an afterthought. Avoid fixed [px] widths and
font sizes from the start and you will have fewer problems.

i will work on that soon!

That's too late. It's the cause of your problems. (I forgot to
mention fixed heights).

Totally agree, it is generated by a database I use to construct all
the pages as HTML - I then upload them. Works a treat. I dont worry
too much about having them as single lines.

If you want people to help you, you should worry about them. Fix
the program that generates the HTML; it can't be more than a line
or two that needs changing. Or pipe it through a filter before
uploading it, e.g.:

sed 's/<[^/]/\
&/g' > temp.html

 

[asdf]

Hi Folk

Can you please give me some feedback on
http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

Bear in mind that I still need to do:

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)

....it doesn't fit. Simple as that.

 

[windandwaves]

On 2007-07-16, windandwaves wrote:
Can you please give me some feedback onhttp://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/
<http://woodbine-gerrard.com/testing/corstophine.jpg>
Bear in mind that I still need to do:
a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes
That shouldn't be an afterthought. Avoid fixed [px] widths and
font sizes from the start and you will have fewer problems.

i will work on that soon!

That's too late. It's the cause of your problems. (I forgot to
mention fixed heights).

Totally agree, it is generated by a database I use to construct all
the pages as HTML - I then upload them. Works a treat. I dont worry
too much about having them as single lines.

If you want people to help you, you should worry about them. Fix
the program that generates the HTML; it can't be more than a line
or two that needs changing. Or pipe it through a filter before
uploading it, e.g.:

sed 's/<[^/]/\
&/g' > temp.html

--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
===================================================================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

Hi Chris

You are probably right - but to be honest with you, it is not really
about the source code. I can tell you that almost all pages validate
(w3). Have you ever tried firebug? Once you use that, you will find
it hard to imagine to look at a website without it. You can simply
quick on any element and choose "inspect element" and it will take you
straight to the applicable source code. It is simply awesome!
Because the h

 

[windandwaves]

...it doesn't fit. Simple as that.

I am writing a new css especially for smaller screen sizes...

 

[windandwaves]

On 2007-07-16, windandwaves wrote:
Can you please give me some feedback onhttp://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/
<http://woodbine-gerrard.com/testing/corstophine.jpg>
Bear in mind that I still need to do:
a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)
b. deal with large font / small font sizes
That shouldn't be an afterthought. Avoid fixed [px] widths and
font sizes from the start and you will have fewer problems.

i will work on that soon!

That's too late. It's the cause of your problems. (I forgot to
mention fixed heights).

Totally agree, it is generated by a database I use to construct all
the pages as HTML - I then upload them. Works a treat. I dont worry
too much about having them as single lines.

If you want people to help you, you should worry about them. Fix
the program that generates the HTML; it can't be more than a line
or two that needs changing. Or pipe it through a filter before
uploading it, e.g.:

sed 's/<[^/]/\
&/g' > temp.html

--
Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
===================================================================
Author:
Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)

You are probably right - but to be honest with you, it is not really
about the source code. I can tell you that almost all pages validate
(w3). Have you ever tried firebug? Once you use that, you will find
it hard to imagine to look at a website without it. You can simply
quick on any element and choose "inspect element" and it will take you
straight to the applicable source code. It is simply awesome!

 

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

I am writing a new css especially for smaller screen sizes...

You have it backwards. Write it properly and you don't need to do
anything special for any screen size (within a very wide range).

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:10:39 GMT
windandwaves scribed:

I thought about your comment a bit more. I guess the idea of the site
is that you need to do a bit of discovery. We show these tiny
thumbnails and then let people click on them to see more.... The site
has over 160 pics you can discover...

Er, I was referring to Indulgence #3. Seems like the ratio of tub to
bather visibility could benefit from a percentage reversal...

 

[rf]

Hi Folk

Can you please give me some feedback on
http://www.sunnysideup.co.nz/clients/corstorphine/

a. create a solution for people with small screens (800 x 600)

Screen size is irrelevant. Window size is. In any case you have fallen into
the negative margin trap. Change the CSS very slightly and it would be
usable even at 800x600, albeit with a horizontal scroll bar.

b. deal with large font / small font sizes

Well you blew that one away for a huge proportion of the people out there by
using pixels for font size, and how many times has *that* been stated as
_not on_ within this and just about every other newsgroup?

And by specifying only 12 of them you instantly cause a significant number
of people [1] using real browsers to bump up their font size. Only two wheel
clicks makes the page looks a mess. Three or more and it becomes unusable.

[1] Older people with possibly failing eyesight who probably *have* the
disposable income to be the very ones to use the hotel. That is, your target
audience.

IMHO you should be thinking about variable canvas size and font size before
you code the first CSS rule, not at this late stage of the track. I hope for
your clients sake they are on contract and not time/materials

 

[dorayme]

Do you like the new one better?

While someone is reading the page they can do without these
repetitive distractions, not everyone can peruse the page before
the centre animation comes around yet to distract this second
time around... It is still going as I write this and it irritates
me so much that I will make comments from memory.

You had some interesting pictures of birds, albatrosses. This
would interest Italian businessmen, especially ones that live in
Sweden and run highly successful web based one man businesses.
They are prone to travel, to seek out women with the name,
Heather, small islands like Tasmania and bigger ones like NZ.
They would also be attracted to the multilingual functions on
your home page.

 

[windandwaves]

Screen size is irrelevant. Window size is. In any case you have fallen into
the negative margin trap. Change the CSS very slightly and it would be
usable even at 800x600, albeit with a horizontal scroll bar.

Hi Richard

How can I:

a. get the content to sit in the middle of the page if the page is
taller than the height of the content
b. get the page to sit at the top with a vertical scroll bar if the
content is taller than the height of the window

I can do it like this:

<table><tr><td valign="middle" align="center">my content</td></tr></
table>

but I can not achieve exactly the same thing using css.

do you have any suggestions in this area?

Thank you.

b. deal with large font / small font sizes

Well you blew that one away for a huge proportion of the people out there by
using pixels for font size, and how many times has *that* been stated as
_not on_ within this and just about every other newsgroup?

And by specifying only 12 of them you instantly cause a significant number
of people [1] using real browsers to bump up their font size. Only two wheel
clicks makes the page looks a mess. Three or more and it becomes unusable.

[1] Older people with possibly failing eyesight who probably *have* the
disposable income to be the very ones to use the hotel. That is, your target
audience.

IMHO you should be thinking about variable canvas size and font size before
you code the first CSS rule, not at this late stage of the track. I hope for
your clients sake they are on contract and not time/materials

It looks good for jo average and so we will probably keep it that
way

 

[windandwaves]

While someone is reading the page they can do without these
repetitive distractions, not everyone can peruse the page before
the centre animation comes around yet to distract this second
time around... It is still going as I write this and it irritates
me so much that I will make comments from memory.

You had some interesting pictures of birds, albatrosses. This
would interest Italian businessmen, especially ones that live in
Sweden and run highly successful web based one man businesses.
They are prone to travel, to seek out women with the name,
Heather, small islands like Tasmania and bigger ones like NZ.
They would also be attracted to the multilingual functions on
your home page.

I like what you write... sounds poetic. So you still think it is too
short. Here is my thinking.

Those four logos are great selling points. We can not reduce the
logos in size much (otherwise they become ugly and illegible) - so
what shall we do? We dont want to clutter the homepage, so this
seemed like a nice solution. A bit of movement is not too bad - right?