Ruby, Debian, and Media Temple

[Trevor Turk]

I recently tried to run some Rails plugins (techno-weenie's White
List) that require a version of Ruby greater than the one Debian is
currently using. I'm wondering if anyone happens to know if/when
Debian might upgrade to a newer version of Ruby - or if anyone knows
if/how to install a newer version on a shared hosting plan
(specifically, Media Temple grid server).

I'm not trying to start another conversation about what Debian should
or should not support. I don't pretend to know anything about that. I
just need to figure out if I should (a) wait for Debian, and hopefully
Media Temple to upgrade, (b) try to get a newer version running for
myself on this shared hosting, or (c) forget about using plugins that
require something newer than 1.8.2.

Any help very much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

I recently tried to run some Rails plugins (techno-weenie's White
List) that require a version of Ruby greater than the one Debian is
currently using. I'm wondering if anyone happens to know if/when
Debian might upgrade to a newer version of Ruby - or if anyone knows
if/how to install a newer version on a shared hosting plan
(specifically, Media Temple grid server).

I'm not trying to start another conversation about what Debian should
or should not support. I don't pretend to know anything about that. I
just need to figure out if I should (a) wait for Debian, and hopefully
Media Temple to upgrade, (b) try to get a newer version running for
myself on this shared hosting, or (c) forget about using plugins that
require something newer than 1.8.2.

Any help very much appreciated. Thanks.

What's your business model?

 

[Carlos]

I recently tried to run some Rails plugins (techno-weenie's White
List) that require a version of Ruby greater than the one Debian is
currently using. I'm wondering if anyone happens to know if/when
Debian might upgrade to a newer version of Ruby - or if anyone knows
if/how to install a newer version on a shared hosting plan
(specifically, Media Temple grid server).

I'm not trying to start another conversation about what Debian should
or should not support. I don't pretend to know anything about that. I
just need to figure out if I should (a) wait for Debian, and hopefully
Media Temple to upgrade, (b) try to get a newer version running for
myself on this shared hosting, or (c) forget about using plugins that
require something newer than 1.8.2.

It's the stable release of Debian, so I don't think they'll upgrade Ruby any
more (save for security patches). The new stable version (with the Ruby
upgrade) doesn't have a release date yet, so it's better not to wait for it.

You can try the ruby package (1.8.5) from the "testing" distribution. If
that won't force you to upgrade too many other packages because of
dependencies, then that's the way to go.

If not, you'll need to build your own ruby.

Good luck.

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[Trevor Turk]

What's your business model?

I'm thinking Digg + Reddit + Flickr + Google. Should be a total no-brainer!

You can try the ruby package (1.8.5) from the "testing" distribution. If
that won't force you to upgrade too many other packages because of
dependencies, then that's the way to go.

If not, you'll need to build your own ruby.

Good luck.

Thanks very much for the help. I'll start Googling.

 

[M. Edward (Ed) Borasky]

It's the stable release of Debian, so I don't think they'll upgrade Ruby any
more (save for security patches). The new stable version (with the Ruby
upgrade) doesn't have a release date yet, so it's better not to wait for it.

It just slipped. "Etch" should be in pretty good shape as far as Ruby is
concerned, and "Sarge" (current stable) should be fine for the rest.

You can try the ruby package (1.8.5) from the "testing" distribution. If
that won't force you to upgrade too many other packages because of
dependencies, then that's the way to go.

If not, you'll need to build your own ruby.

One thing to watch out for is that Debian "testing" doesn't guarantee
security updates like "stable" does. So ... things like the "p2" level
may not necessarily be in there until there's a formal release of "Etch".

Just out of curiosity, how many hosting companies are there that run
Debian these days? I thought most of them were running Fedora Core on
the Linux side.

 

[Eric Hodel]

I'm wondering if anyone happens to know if/when Debian might
upgrade to a newer version of Ruby

Wouldn't a Debian packaging mailing list be most suitable for this
question?

or if anyone knows if/how to install a newer version on a shared
hosting plan
(specifically, Media Temple grid server).

Wouldn't a Media Temple support mailing list be most suitable for
this question?