Ruby Weekly News 24th - 30th January 2005

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    Ruby Weekly News 24th - 30th January 2005

    A summary of the week's activity on the ruby-talk mailing list / the
    comp.lang.ruby newsgroup. This summary is brought to you by Tim Sutherland

    Articles and Announcements

    * [Francais]

    Mathieu Bouchard let readers know that a French-language mailing
    list for Ruby discussion is available. Send an email to
    whose contents are only the word
    "subscribe" (without the quotation marks!) The forum itself is
    then . There are more than 60 people
    subscribed so far, although there is not yet much discussion.
    Mathieu also wants to form a Ruby Montréal Users Group and [asks]
    interested users to email him.

    * [RedHanded interviews chromatic (ONLamp site editor)]

    whytheluckstiff informed us that "Curt Hibbs' [Rails article] at
    [] has been a hit. Curious as to the perspective of
    ONLamp staff, I [staged an interview] with its editor, chromatic."

    * [Looking for some help]

    Dave Thomas warned that "t's looking as if the success of the
    Bookshelf venture is severely cramping the amount of time I can
    dedicate to RDoc. That's to it's detriment." With this in mind,
    Dave's looking for a new maintainer of this important
    documentation tool.

    * [Bangalore rubyists?]

    If you're a Rubyist living in Bangalore then Martin DeMello would
    like you to add your name to this thread. The IndiaGroup wiki page
    has some names as well.

    Quote of the Week

    why the lucky stiff made the following disturbing [disclosure]:

    "Early on, long ago, I had a dream that Matz came over in his little
    painter's outfit and started to wallpaper my house with lettuce. But I think
    my dream was influenced by the fact that when I first met Matz he was
    holding salad tongs. I speak the unimpeachable truth."


    Interesting threads this week included:

    [Ruby for mobile phones?]

    cyberco wrote:

    "I've been doing a lot of work with Java J2ME and one thing that bars
    real innovation is waiting for new API's that open up the phones
    functionality. And if these API are finally released it takes years
    before they are sufficiently spread to build applications with them.
    NOKIA realized this and started to port PYTHON to Symbian (a popular OS
    for mobile terminals). This allows programmers to easily access the
    phones native functionality. Unfortunately this is still a project in
    its pre-alpha state.

    But maybe that's fortunate for the Ruby community. Wouldn't it be great
    if Ruby was ported to mobile (aka limited) terminals as well?"

    Kero reported that he had Ruby working on an iPaq and thought that phones
    running Linux would be easier to port Ruby to. Palm Pilot support was also
    discussed. As far as supporting phone-specific APIs, using OPL (BASIC-like
    language for Symbian) could be the way to go - either by translating a
    subset of Ruby to OPL or (your editor suggests), extracting API
    information from OPL source code / documentation, or writing a bridge to
    allow Ruby to call OPL code.

    [Self and Ruby Comparisons]

    If you've ever wondered about the differences between Ruby and the [Self]
    programming language then this thread has some insight. Self is based
    around a prototype-based object model where objects arise from cloning and
    modification, whereas Ruby has a class-based object model in which objects
    are usually created by calling the new method of a class.

    Martin DeMello quipped "for one, self doesn't have a ruby keyword". On a
    more serious note, Csaba Henk said "In Self really everything is message
    passing. Unlike Ruby and unlike Smalltalk! Assignment is a special thing
    even in Smalltalk. In Self, you are free to add/modify slots of objects
    from outside, and assignment is in fact just a message which does this. (I
    think so.)" Csaba also showed how Ruby can be used like a prototype-based
    language thanks to the ability to add/modify methods on single objects.

    Ideas for how to change an object's class from out underneath it were
    discussed, with Florian Gross mentioning that [Evil Ruby] adds an
    Object#class= method. (Evil Ruby is a library that provides support for
    doing strange and sometimes dangerous things to the Ruby runtime.)

    [nuby threading on threads]

    Peña, Botp was using threads in Ruby for the first time and wrote the
    following program. The idea is to have 10 threads doing work, and as each
    thread dies a new one should be launched.

    LIMIT= 10
    tlist = []
    loop {
    if tlist.size< LIMIT
    tlist << { p "test" }
    sleep 5

    This didn't work properly - tlist became filled with dead threads. Peña
    wanted to know the best way of removing dead threads from the list.

    Eric Hodel said that tlist should be a ThreadGroup instead of an Array.
    "ThreadGroups automatically drop Threads that are no longer alive. Use
    tlist.list to get the list of threads currently in the ThreadGroup."

    [RubyConf '05]

    Brian McCallister wondered if any decisions had been made regarding
    RubyConf 2005 - location, date, etc. Chad Fowler and his [RubyCentral]
    "co-conspirators" have a date and location in mind and will be making an
    announcement soon. Harry Ohlsen thought Sydney would make a good location
    one year and Premshree Pillai thought likewise for somewhere in India, to
    which there were a couple of "+1"s.

    Michael Neumann had the same question about EuRuKo '05 (European Ruby
    conference). Stephan Kämper suggested "I raise my voice to locate it in
    wonderful Hamburg this year - or somewhere in Northern Europe (Denmark

    The thread somehow turned into a discussion on black holes and
    Minkowski-Einstein principles with Michael Neumann calculating that there
    are at least 2.3501502e+14 Rubyists in the universe.

    [A Rubyist's Dream]

    Benjamin Stiglitz was driven to join the list by a dream about Matz coming
    to his door with New Years greetings. This induced whytheluckystiff into
    sharing his own dream, see Quote of the Week above.

    Hal Fulton:

    "In all seriousness, have you ever dreamed the exact location and cause
    of a bug? I have on three occasions. Once I was on contract to IBM and
    working very hard. I woke up thinking, "Man, I should put that on my

    Matz confessed "Often. Furthermore, sometimes I jumped up from the bed and
    turned on my PC to find that the bug was already fixed by myself sometime

    [Array::uniq { block } ?]

    Belorion wanted to use Array#uniq but with a block so the following could
    be done:

    a = [ [1,2], [3,4], [1,3] ]
    b = a.uniq { |x,y| x[0] == y[0] } # -> [ [1,2], [3,4] ]

    This is similar to the behaviour of Enumerable#sort when given a block.

    Martin DeMello suggested uniq_by, to behave analogously to sort_by, so
    that the example would be written as "b = a.uniq_by { |x| x[0] }".

    As a more general concern, there were questions as to whether it was
    necessary to add even more blocks to the Ruby standard library with
    responses ranging from "Where does it all end?!" to thinking that it would
    be a good idea to look for other methods which don't yet have blocks.

    [Ten Things Every Java Programmer Should Know About Ruby]

    Jim Weirich is going to be introducing Ruby to the XP (Extreme
    Programming) user's group in Cincinnati next week and wanted to prepare a
    list of "Ten Things Every Java Programmer Should Know About Ruby".

    The responses have been [summarised] (well, listed anyway).

    [[SUMMARY] Paper Rock Scissors (#16)]

    James Edward Gray II summarised last week's [Ruby Quiz] - to write a bot
    to play the rock-paper-scissors game. (Solutions were posted under the
    [quiz announcement].)

    Bill Atkins started something when he posted

    class Cheater < Player
    def initialize opponent
    Object.const_get(opponent).send :define_method, :choose do
    def choose

    In response, Jannis Harder posted a player that will always beat Bill's
    bot - not only does it redefine the opponent's choose method, but it
    retores its own method each time in case the opponent tried to cheat too.

    [[QUIZ] To Excel (#17)]

    James Edward Gray II came up with a realistic task for [Ruby Quiz] this
    week - extract useful information from a report and import it into Excel
    (alternatively, produce a CSV file).

    "Years ago, on a job developing custom reporting software, this was one of the
    side tasks. Parsing a report may sound boring, but I urge you to at least
    download this report and peek inside. It's a tragic example of database
    output gone wrong."

    [how do i turn an object into a binding?]

    Bret Pettichord wanted to replace code like


    with (foo) do

    Florian Frank gave a solution using instance_eval. When foo.instance_eval
    is called with a block, the block is evaluated but with self being foo.
    For example,

    foo.instance_eval do

    Note that if we have code like " = 5" then it cannot be replaced
    with "foo.instance_eval { bar = 5 }" since in the latter code, bar will be
    interpreted as a local variable. Instead, foo.instance_eval { = 5 }
    must be used.

    [Ruby WikiDocs?]

    Warren Brown had an idea for improving Ruby documentation: "Ruby WikiDocs
    would basically be a Wiki containing Ruby documentation that anyone (after
    registering?) could add to, change, or simply make comments about." This
    would solve the current problem where people have to post patches to
    documentation, and its not always clear where to send the patch.

    James Britt said that this had been discussed in the past and was on his
    growing ToDo list for [].

    There were also ideas for making it easy to backport the Wiki information
    into the source code. (Currently, classes and methods are documented via
    comments in source code. The rdoc tool then extracts this data.)

    [Current state of Ruby i18n?]

    James Britt wanted to build a website that presented content in multiple
    languages using Ruby. Eric Hodel suggested adding

    $KCODE = 'u'
    require 'jcode'

    to his program, to "make string functions multibyte-capable". Then the web
    pages simply need to set the content-type to UTF-8.

    New Releases

    * [Ruby 2.0!]

    Chris Pine announced that "Ruby 2 (a.k.a Ruby Secunda Kathrine
    Pine) was released January 22, 2005 at 1:51:42 pm (PST) after a
    few hours of intense, last-minute debugging and deployment. We've
    been working on this project for just over 9 months and are quite
    pleased with the results! (Well, my wife really did most of the
    work, though I *did* play a seminal role in the initial project
    conception phase.)" Her older brother's name is "C Maximus Pine".
    Chris later added "[w]e needed a theme, so we decided to name our
    kids after programming languages. Yeah, my wife is pretty cool. :)"

    * [DBus/Ruby 0.1.10]

    leon breedt removed [DBus/Ruby]'s dependency on Ruby-GNOME2.
    DBus/Ruby is a Ruby interface to [D-BUS] ("D-BUS is a message bus
    system, a simple way for applications to talk to one another").

    * [JRuby 0.8.0]

    Thomas E Enebo released a new version of [Jruby], a project to
    implement a Ruby interpreter in Java. Threading support and Java
    interaction have been improved, many bugs were fixed, the rubicon
    test suite can be run and the Ruby 1.8 grammar is fully supported.

    * [aeditor-2.2 (future release)]

    Simon Strandgaard added new keybindings and colour rendering to
    [AEditor], a cross-platform console editor designed for use by

    * [win32-changenotify 0.3.0]

    The Win32Utils team was "proud" to annouce win32-changenotify
    0.3.0, an interface for monitoring file and directory changes on
    the Win32 platform. It now provides more detailed information on
    what the change was.

    * [io-extra 0.1.0]

    Daniel Berger was "happy" to release io-extra 0.1.0, a collection
    of extra methods for the IO class. Methods for closing or
    iterating over all file descriptors were added, along with
    directio support.

    * [Rails 0.9.5: A world of fixes and tweaks]

    David Heinemeier Hansson and co-conspirators have been busy
    polishing the [Rails] web application framework. Highlights
    include improvements in reloading source code when an application
    is in development and improved support for collections.

    * [WWW::Mechanize 0.1.0 available as Gem]

    Michael Neumann packaged [WWW::Mechanize] for RubyGems. This is a
    port of the Perl library by the same name, used to help write Ruby
    programs that extract data from websites, click links etc.

    * [ruby-dl2-0.0 for Ruby 1.8 and Ruby 1.9]

    It was Takaaki Tateishi's "pleasure" to inform the group that the
    first version of [Ruby/DL2] has been released for inspection. This
    will soon replace Ruby/DL in the current unstable branch of Ruby
    (1.9). DL provides an easy way to interact with C code from Ruby.
    Takaaki is very interested in people's opinions at this stage.

    * [Arachno Ruby IDE 0.4.0]

    Lothar Scholz was "pleased" to announce a new release of [Arachno
    Ruby IDE], a commercial, proprietary development environment for
    Ruby. A 60 day trial version is available. Context-based
    completion has been added, indentation improved and more.

    * [Wee 0.5.0]

    Michael Neumann updated his web application framework Wee to
    include enhancements like support for live-updates and Og
    scaffolding (object-relational mapper).

    * [Logtails 0.4 : the time saving release]

    Bauduin Raphael added save-session support to [Logtails], a
    graphical tool (Qt) for watching log files.
    Tim Sutherland, Jan 30, 2005
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    Trans Guest

    Tim have you tried submitting a weekly update to any of the major bb
    sites like OSNews? Think that's a good idea?

    Trans, Jan 31, 2005
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  3. In article <>, Trans wrote:
    >Tim have you tried submitting a weekly update to any of the major bb
    >sites like OSNews? Think that's a good idea?

    Good idea. I've emailed Linux Weekly News about this - they
    have a section on Languages and Tools.

    I'm not sure about OSNews since Ruby isn't an operating system.

    Any other places?
    Tim Sutherland, Jan 31, 2005
  4. Tim Sutherland

    Trans Guest

    Maybe LinuxToday.
    Trans, Jan 31, 2005
  5. Tim Sutherland

    Trans Guest

    Trans, Feb 1, 2005
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