[Semi-OT]: All My FAQs

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First of all, does anyone know what Jerry is up to? As most of us are
aware of already, he let the domain expire (again), and it now shows a
placeholder page for Register.com.

Secondly, I tried downloading the article archive from the Wayback
Machine today, only to notice that some of the articles are having
trouble in the the IAWM[1] system, rendering them inaccessible. I do
believe I got the majority of the articles, but as I said, there are a
few missing.

Does anyone have a complete collection of these articles? I'm hoping to
put up a mirror of the site somewhere (or at least the articles
themselves). I'd prefer to have them compressed into a single archive
file, most archive formats are accepted (.zip, .arj, .arc, .rar, .tar,
..gz, .bz2, etc).

Third, I'm the one who managed to register allmyfaqs.net and
allmyfaqs.org, and I plan to use these just for that purpose; reviving
that old site, one way or another. I'm providing the hosting for the
site myself, too.

Why nobody ever thought of registering these versions of the domain
name, is beyond me.

 

[Stewart Gordon]

First of all, does anyone know what Jerry is up to? As most of us are
aware of already, he let the domain expire (again), and it now shows a
placeholder page for Register.com.

When did anybody around here last see or hear anything of Jerry, for
that matter?

Third, I'm the one who managed to register allmyfaqs.net and
allmyfaqs.org, and I plan to use these just for that purpose; reviving
that old site, one way or another. I'm providing the hosting for the
site myself, too.

Why nobody ever thought of registering these versions of the domain
name, is beyond me.

allmyfaqs.org: because nobody got round to doubting its commercial
status indicated by the .com name?

allmyfaqs.net: because nobody ever thought of AllMyFaqs as a network
provider?

Next question: why has nobody thought of registering allmyfaqs.info yet?

Stewart.

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the 'group where everyone may benefit.

 

[Allis]

When did anybody around here last see or hear anything of Jerry, for
that matter?



allmyfaqs.org: because nobody got round to doubting its commercial
status indicated by the .com name?

allmyfaqs.net: because nobody ever thought of AllMyFaqs as a network
provider?

Next question: why has nobody thought of registering allmyfaqs.info yet?

Stewart.

Was busy registering http://cull-the-herd.com



Allis

 

[Jan Roland Eriksson]

Some change in life maybe, none of our business really

When did anybody around here last see or hear anything of Jerry, for
that matter?

Maybe it can be seen as a slight level of disrespect for the web to let
a well known and popular domain just die;

OTOH it was his domain, paid for with his own money; he has the right to
do whatever he likes with it.

In the bigger picture; this is just another case that shows that the web
is not a reliable area for information storage. The web is "dynamic" to
say the least; Jerry and I had a discussion about this several years
back when he introduced his first version of an interactive "wicki" on
his site.

We ended up in a yet unsolved disagreement; where resulting history
seems to give me the edge when I said that Usenet is a better forum for
FAQ postings as compared to web based FAQ lists.

Usenet is still continuously archived by big enough organizations, which
makes it solidly different from the www.

 

[Toby Inkster]

Usenet is still continuously archived by big enough organizations, which
makes it solidly different from the www.

http://www.archive.org/

 

[Heidi]

Allis wrote:
: Was busy registering http://cull-the-herd.com


Why? Just curious =)

 

[Stan Brown]

Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:33:40 +0100 from Jan Roland Eriksson

We ended up in a yet unsolved disagreement; where resulting history
seems to give me the edge when I said that Usenet is a better forum for
FAQ postings as compared to web based FAQ lists.

But using both media is better still, as I hope you'll agree.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you

 

[Stan Brown]

Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:10:14 +0000 from Toby Inkster <usenet200511
@tobyinkster.co.uk>:

http://www.archive.org/

The Internet Wayback Machine (URL above) is a great resource, but
it's far from complete. Its FAQs
<http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#The_Wayback_Machine> point to
its exclusion policy
<http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/research/conferences/aps/removal-
policy.html> which includes honoring robots.txt files for instance.
Note in particular (on the FAQs page) that robots.txt files are
honored retroactively.

In addition, changes in Web pages get missed if the page changes more
than once between the times the Wayback Machine archives it.

Then there are the usual suspects that inhibit indexing _and_
archiving: Javascript navigation, server-side image maps, and so
forth.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
HTML 4.01 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/
validator: http://validator.w3.org/
CSS 2.1 spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/
validator: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
Why We Won't Help You:
http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/05/05/why_we_wont_help_you

 

[jerry]

I'm not so sure about the final call on superiority of information
storage, Rex, especially if you factor in useability. WikiPedia seems
to be doing all right by its users, when it is used within its
limitations, and seems a good deal more useful than searching usenet
for answers.

BTW I have a great deal of respect for the web, and for those who drive
it toward its potential and work to protect it from malevolence. Toward
that end, I groomed and tweaked and watched over allmyfaqs.com like a
mother hen, and have some 563 articles backed up in the wiki engine's
*.db format from which the wiki can be rebuilt (or anthologized) for
future generations.

---- Jerry Muelver

 

[Els]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

Jerry, have you noticed your domain has expired?

 

[jerry]

Els asked,
"Jerry, have you noticed your domain has expired? "

Yes, Els. I'm pretty religious about reading the domain registrar
notices in my email, once I get the 95% spam cleared away.

---- Jerry Muelver

 

[brucie]

Yes, Els. I'm pretty religious about reading the domain registrar
notices in my email,

how about reregistering it and putting the wiki back? pretty please?

once I get the 95% spam cleared away.

thats not spam! they're little love notes i've been sending you. <sob/> i
feel so unloved.

 

[jerry]

Brucie asks, "how about reregistering it and putting the wiki back?
pretty please?"

Hmmm.... A link from http://www.brucies.com would get the
button-searchers, wouldn't it? Might be able to work up a business plan
on that....

---- Jerry Muelver

 

[Jan Roland Eriksson]

Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:33:40 +0100 from Jan Roland Eriksson


But using both media is better still, as I hope you'll agree.

Sure; Usenet traditions calls for an _original_ version of a FAQ list to
be posted to the NG where it belongs. That original FAQ list shall have
a URL to a web copy (if one exists) it in its meta head.

The setup of this following meta head is correct as per Usenet
recommendations (once approved and registered by the moderators at MIT)
and the text version is the last updated original.

http://www.css.nu/faq/ciwas-mFAQ.txt

There is a URL too pointing to what should be a web copy of the text but
still unfinished due to my lack of time and energy.

Let's hope that Tina will find time to do some update work on the css.nu
FAQ lists now when she has volunteered to take over and run the css.nu
domain. At least there should be a cron job set up to post the text once
a week, I'll see if I can motivate Tina to set it up.

Info on how to set up the framework of a correct FAQ list and how to get
it approved for postings to the correct *.answers hierarchy[1] is given
in this old but timeless document...

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/faqs/about-faqs/

A Usenet NG can have as many FAQ lists as its users see fit but in most
cases there is at least one list that is sort of 'primary', i.e. the one
that directly addresses the procedures for the NG and FA questions
directly on topic for the NG.

[1] all *.answers NG's are (supposed to be) moderated and all postings
passes through a (sometimes human) moderator gateway before they are
allowed to enter an *.answers NG.

 

[Charles Sweeney]

wrote

Brucie asks, "how about reregistering it and putting the wiki back?
pretty please?"

Hmmm.... A link from http://www.brucies.com would get the
button-searchers, wouldn't it? Might be able to work up a business plan
on that....

Howdy stranger!

 

[Jan Roland Eriksson]

I'm not so sure about the final call on superiority of information
storage, Rex, especially if you factor in useability.

I factored in stability of storage. Web sites that depends on the energy
input from one single person are vulnerable by definition.

There was an interview with a philosopher of sorts here on Swedish radio
the other day. He was asked about what generic thought he most often had
on mind.

Philosopher...

"I wake up in the morning to start another day of life,
not knowing if I will ever see the evening."

Interviewer...

"But that goes for every one?"

Philosopher...

"Yea, but do they live and act accordingly?"

As a contrast, I just spent a quick minute on Google groups to find an
archived thread from early 1998 where I participated. I'm sure that if I
spend a few minutes more I would find my very first post on Usenet from
late 1995 too.

WikiPedia seems to be doing all right by its users,

No doubts.

...seems a good deal more useful than searching usenet
for answers.

A matter of taste I'd say.

...I groomed and tweaked and watched over allmyfaqs.com
like a mother hen...

I know that, and you have my full respect for that effort.

The same "idealism" came out of me for css.nu which over the years I had
it has costed me some $2500,- of already taxed money coming out of my
own pocket. Lucky for me I found some one to take over the site after my
life situation has changed enough to make it difficult to continue.

Let's initiate an experiment in storage reliability...

=====

This is official from me Jan Roland Eriksson.

Tina Holmboe, one original member of the "Web Design Group" at...

http://www.htmlhelp.org

....and the current manager of Greytower Technologies at...

http://www.greytower.co.uk/

....is now the official owner of the domain 'css.nu' and has been given
all rights to handle original material stored within that domain as she
see fit. The domain and its content has been handed over to Tina as a
gift from me and my original css.nu web partner Sue Sims.

=====

Now let's see if any one could fight Tina for her rights to css.nu ten
years from now, regardless if I will see the end of this day or not

Compare the possibilities to a situation where I would have created a
standard web page containing the same information.

 

[jerry]

'Lo, Charles.

With Brucie on-deck, how could I be "stranger"?

---- Jerry Muelver

 

[Els]

'Lo, Charles.

With Brucie on-deck, how could I be "stranger"?

Good point.

 

[Nick Theodorakis]

First of all, does anyone know what Jerry is up to? As most of us are
aware of already, he let the domain expire (again), and it now shows a
placeholder page for Register.com.

I just got into contact with Jerry. He isn't interested in running AMF
anymore, or maintaining the domain name, but is willing to let someone
else have it. Any takers? Tina?

Nick

 

[Tina - AxisHOST, Inc.]

I just got into contact with Jerry. He isn't interested in running AMF
anymore, or maintaining the domain name, but is willing to let someone
else have it. Any takers? Tina?

I've always said I'll host it for free.

--Tina