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[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:07:03
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

I'm the former. I had no issues with them the two times I've paid for
the service.

So? Then I guess they tried to stiff me. This is no fantasy; the
charge was on my bank account until I had it removed. (-Only about $3,
but it's the principle... I also couldn't get thru to their hotline to
inquire.)

Did you use a cc?

Probably 30, but some of them are low-traffic groups. I only heavily
participate in...I guess three that run two or three hundred posts or
more a day. Most are mid-sized. I read a lot more than I post here
and in alt.www.webmaster; I'm not as versed in the issues with these
two groups so it's more learning for me and less helping. I did just
pick up a domain to take my Usenet Improvement Project to, so when I
get around to designing that (it'll be completely new) I'll probably
be standing in the help queue here more than I have been.

I've looked at your current effort a few times, and it seems pretty damn
good to me. Probably the best thing to remember when html-page-making
is that there are bound to be roadblocks because the standards aren't
fully "set" yet and the browsers render markup differently, anyway. In
some ways I think it's all a bunch of crap little better than what was
around in the early nineties. The _move_ towards standardization is
good, but the reality of the current implimentations...? I dunno. I
think they could have done better.

 

[John Hosking]

Not counting the unused and unconfigured OE, I also have 7 news clients.

I'm kind of a Usenet junkie.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

 

[dorayme]

Nope. I like dorayme.

That is so sweet of you, my dearest Boji - little flower, sugar
plum, pumpkin. Before I knew your true feelings, I sent a little
something to you via my agents. But please do not open. In the
light of your confession, forward it on to your mate, that shark
schmuck. Let's see if one of its millions of google-header and
usenet and God knows what other filters (a swimming version of
The Iraq Green Zone) can detect it for what it is, a packet of
very simple, odourless, pills.

Why, you ask, is there a need for so many in a bottle. Let me
tell you, you sweet pumkin: while not placebos, the others act as
decoy, just one drop-dead pill would look suspicious. In case
your mate swallows the whole bottle, I have taken care to make
the bottle a fast-release capsule coating. If this bait is not
taken, I can make up a huge pill and make it look like an
earthling wet-suited diver.

she's interesting and intelligent - and a little flaky.

Please read my writings more closely. I explained to Toby about
what they call shark in Melbourne and I really would prefer you
did not use that word in relation to me. Let me take the
opportunity to give you a new Jewish word: Tell your feverishly
killfiling, ever filtering, ever caustic, ever obsequious
schmark, to get stuffed. This is _my_ present to you Boji, a new
Jewish word for the schmucks of the deep. (It's ok, no need to
leap to anything for me like "schmart" - it is already used by my
enemies at home).

In the meantime, Boji, old son, considering you did not deliver
the slightest on The Desert nor on The Young Trader, how about
saying whether you find the following, the least suspicious:

That is my dog.
That dog is a father.
Therefore, that dog is my father.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 04 Aug 2007
09:07:03 GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:


So? Then I guess they tried to stiff me. This is no fantasy; the
charge was on my bank account until I had it removed. (-Only about
$3, but it's the principle... I also couldn't get thru to their
hotline to inquire.)

Did you use a cc?

Visa. $12.46 in April last year and 13.91 this April. No other
charges.

I've looked at your current effort a few times, and it seems pretty
damn good to me. Probably the best thing to remember when

Why, thank you.

My main goal has been simplicity and speed. I love fast downloading
sites; I'm heavily influenced by the plain-jane pages I get from
many/most of the Linux documentation and help sites, RFC sites, and
stuff like that. Unless I'm *looking* for images, I don't need them --
they're of little use on an informational pages. I'm on a dialup, and I
have and will try to continue NOT making stuff that takes two minutes a
page for the other good folks that are, for whatever reason(s) on
dialups.

I'm snooping for two- or three-column nontabled layouts to work from for
the new site. That doesn't imply that I'm using tables now. But I did
for one version of my present hobby site years ago. I learned a lot
with that, though. Not just in terms of coding; also a pain in the ass
maintainance was.

html-page-making is that there are bound to be roadblocks because the
standards aren't fully "set" yet and the browsers render markup
differently, anyway. In some ways I think it's all a bunch of crap
little better than what was around in the early nineties. The _move_
towards standardization is good, but the reality of the current
implimentations...? I dunno. I think they could have done better.

Another advantage to keep it simple is that I can do reasonably well
without being a Wizard.

I test new stuff and changes in FF, Opera, Konqueror, lynx
and...uh...what's that other one...the legacy browser...oh, yeah -- IE.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

Steps...hmmm...rings a bell from my old friendship with Bill W.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:13:40
GMT dorayme scribed:

That is so sweet of you, my dearest Boji - little flower, sugar
plum, pumpkin.

Well, remember that the next time you become aggravated at me. Btw, does
this mean that if I ever happen to visit Australia, I can get in your
pants?

Before I knew your true feelings, I sent a little
something to you via my agents. But please do not open. In the
light of your confession, forward it on to your mate, that shark
schmuck. Let's see if one of its millions of google-header and
usenet and God knows what other filters (a swimming version of
The Iraq Green Zone) can detect it for what it is, a packet of
very simple, odourless, pills.

Why, you ask, is there a need for so many in a bottle. Let me
tell you, you sweet pumkin: while not placebos, the others act as
decoy, just one drop-dead pill would look suspicious. In case
your mate swallows the whole bottle, I have taken care to make
the bottle a fast-release capsule coating. If this bait is not
taken, I can make up a huge pill and make it look like an
earthling wet-suited diver.

Just one question: does this in any way, shape, or form have anything to
do with why Luigi has not made even a token appearance here in several
months?

Please read my writings more closely. I explained to Toby about
what they call shark in Melbourne and I really would prefer you
did not use that word in relation to me.

Huh? I never called you a shark. -Not even a sharkess, by golly. I
therefore supposed you are referring to the word which means "shark" in
Melbourne, but I honestly don't know/can't recall/do not remember what
that is. So I guess you're safe, -except for accidents.

Let me take the
opportunity to give you a new Jewish word: Tell your feverishly
killfiling, ever filtering, ever caustic, ever obsequious
schmark, to get stuffed. This is _my_ present to you Boji, a new
Jewish word for the schmucks of the deep. (It's ok, no need to
leap to anything for me like "schmart" - it is already used by my
enemies at home).

Blinky's okay. I think frazzlicious stuff drives him crazy, that's all.
Sharks _are_ rather used to a more-or-less perfect world. They're at the
top of their food chain, and if one of 'em disappears every now and then
due to the predations of man, they look on the bright side of having less
competition.

In the meantime, Boji, old son, considering you did not deliver
the slightest on The Desert nor on The Young Trader, how about
saying whether you find the following, the least suspicious:

That is my dog.
That dog is a father.
Therefore, that dog is my father.

Wey-all, logic dictates that the dog does _not_ have to be his father,
that's for sure. Besides the aforemantioned, the only other thing it
suggests to me is perhaps the guy's into incestual bestiality.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:18:47
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

Visa. $12.46 in April last year and 13.91 this April. No other
charges.

Hmm, I wonder what happened? Maybe there're getting greedy with new
users, I dunno. I may still have the documentation on the whole thing.
Will have to look.

Why, thank you.

My main goal has been simplicity and speed. I love fast downloading
sites; I'm heavily influenced by the plain-jane pages I get from
many/most of the Linux documentation and help sites, RFC sites, and
stuff like that. Unless I'm *looking* for images, I don't need them --
they're of little use on an informational pages. I'm on a dialup, and
I
have and will try to continue NOT making stuff that takes two minutes a
page for the other good folks that are, for whatever reason(s) on
dialups.

You're a man after my own heart. -Er, shark. Although my site is
virtually all thumbnail links and images, I have 2 index pages: one
normal and one lite. Even the normal one's fast; it has a handful of
small images and (now) a short video which, however, only loads for hi-
speed users. (Opera may be a temporary exception, but I'm working on
that.)

The lite page loads almost instantly, even on dialup. It's basically just
2 columns of links and a form, although it can be set at the visitor's
option to provide hover images related to the links. All the fancy stuff
is javascript but completely non-essential.

I'm snooping for two- or three-column nontabled layouts to work from
for
the new site. That doesn't imply that I'm using tables now. But I did
for one version of my present hobby site years ago. I learned a lot
with that, though. Not just in terms of coding; also a pain in the ass
maintainance was.

You might try experimentally floating a few divs and applying a little
padding just to see what happens. The hard part is height-matching, if
that becomes necessary.

Another advantage to keep it simple is that I can do reasonably well
without being a Wizard.

Simplicity also abets functionality no matter how much of a wizard one
is. Complicated things tend to break easily in html.

I test new stuff and changes in FF, Opera, Konqueror, lynx
and...uh...what's that other one...the legacy browser...oh, yeah -- IE.

I don't have any Linux or Mac stuff, so I tend to stick with "the big
three": IE (6 and 7), FF/SeaMonkey, and Opera. I _hope_ my site works
in browsers like Safari and Konqueror, but if not, -oh, well.

 

[dorayme]

GMT dorayme scribed:


Well, remember that the next time you become aggravated at me. Btw, does
this mean that if I ever happen to visit Australia, I can get in your
pants?

You would be most unhappy in your attempts, no Australian jury
would convict me. Just stay as you are, alive, talking a lot of
rubbish and generally enjoying yourself, rather than having
missing parts, terrible injuries, being _perfectly still_, _not
breathing_ for ever and ever...

I don't want to feel like The Schofield Kid from Unforgiven as he
sat under that tree drinking great gulps of whisky from a bottle
shared with Clint Eastwood.

Let us not dwell on unpleasant things my dearest Boji. Lift your
mind higher.

Huh? I never called you a shark.

Hint: "flake". That is what they call shark meat in Melbourne

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:18:47
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

Hmm, I wonder what happened? Maybe there're getting greedy with new
users, I dunno. I may still have the documentation on the whole thing.
Will have to look.

I have connections within the industry. My uncle is a loan shark.

You're a man after my own heart. -Er, shark. Although my site is
virtually all thumbnail links and images, I have 2 index pages: one
normal and one lite. Even the normal one's fast; it has a handful of
small images and (now) a short video which, however, only loads for hi-
speed users. (Opera may be a temporary exception, but I'm working on
that.)

I hate long paper-towel-roll pages with tons of large images. My buddy
made one of those with photos of his new (and first) house a few years
back. I spent a whole evening making that into a gallery with a thumbs
page, and stuck it on Blinkynet for him.

The lite page loads almost instantly, even on dialup. It's basically just
2 columns of links and a form, although it can be set at the visitor's
option to provide hover images related to the links. All the fancy stuff
is javascript but completely non-essential.

I've never done a lick of js, at this point. Can't count on people
having it enabled.

You might try experimentally floating a few divs and applying a little
padding just to see what happens. The hard part is height-matching, if
that becomes necessary.
Right.


Simplicity also abets functionality no matter how much of a wizard one
is. Complicated things tend to break easily in html.

There ya go. And maintenence is more fussy.

I don't have any Linux or Mac stuff, so I tend to stick with "the big
three": IE (6 and 7), FF/SeaMonkey, and Opera. I _hope_ my site works
in browsers like Safari and Konqueror, but if not, -oh, well.

Can check Konq. Link?

 

[Blinky the Shark]

I don't have any Linux or Mac stuff, so I tend to stick with "the big
three": IE (6 and 7), FF/SeaMonkey, and Opera. I _hope_ my site works
in browsers like Safari and Konqueror, but if not, -oh, well.

I found you. And saw that I'd been there before.

On your default page, Konq ends abruptly at the bottom of the TinyURL
container. So I also don't see the Weather Zone or the

Css Test|Html Test|20070727

stuff at the bottom.

Other than that, that page is pretty much the same.

Munch Test. And I never thought I'd be writing that phrase.

I do see the Css Check|Html Check|30 Sep 06 line at the bottom in Konq;
so that page *is* the same in both browsers.

Planet Venus pages match well.

Ditto the alt link from there.

So except for the missing stuff at the bottom of the default page, if
you've seen it in Firefox you've seen it in Konqueror.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:44:56
GMT dorayme scribed:

You would be most unhappy in your attempts, no Australian jury
would convict me. Just stay as you are, alive, talking a lot of
rubbish and generally enjoying yourself, rather than having
missing parts, terrible injuries, being _perfectly still_, _not
breathing_ for ever and ever...

I don't want to feel like The Schofield Kid from Unforgiven as he
sat under that tree drinking great gulps of whisky from a bottle
shared with Clint Eastwood.

Let us not dwell on unpleasant things my dearest Boji. Lift your
mind higher.

Well, at least that was one of the more equitable rejections I've ever
heard in my life. I have to tell you, though, that my mind is in the
gutter. It actually likes it there, having grown used to such low-lying
crevassities from decades of base imbibing. I get dizzy when I "lift my
head", so to speak, and "soaring amongst the clouds" would certainly
deflate my proverbial sack. The good part is that I find it much easier
to maintain an equilibrium in my present position rather than at the so-
called exalted stature assumed by someone like a yuppie.

Hint: "flake". That is what they call shark meat in Melbourne

I shall accede to your wishes. However, I will also continue to
capitalize words at the beginnings of sentences.

May I ask you a question? (-Uh, I'm going to, anyway.) With a mind to
this word that may no longer be spoken, how do you view yourself on such
a scale? In other words, on a scale of, say, 1 to 10 (-least to most),
what would be your eccentricity factor? I'm curious about what _you_
think, nothing more.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 05:52:55
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

I have connections within the industry. My uncle is a loan shark.


I hate long paper-towel-roll pages with tons of large images. My
buddy made one of those with photos of his new (and first) house a few
years back. I spent a whole evening making that into a gallery with a
thumbs page, and stuck it on Blinkynet for him.

Yeah, a page can be _too big_, even ignoring speed. I think I like
something between 2 and 3 viewports (maximized) best, although content
can play a part. While Googling, I've run across a few sites which were
basically lists (of software, for instance,) that actually seemed too
short to suit me as well.

I've never done a lick of js, at this point. Can't count on people
having it enabled.

Oh, but you can do _so_ much with it! As the regulars keep saying,
though, it should never be essential to the page.

There ya go. And maintenence is more fussy.

Precisely. My problem is that when I finish a page, I soon get bored
with it, so I keep adding and adding and adding... It's enough addle the
brain!

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:11:10
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

I found you. And saw that I'd been there before.

On your default page, Konq ends abruptly at the bottom of the TinyURL
container. So I also don't see the Weather Zone or the

Css Test|Html Test|20070727

stuff at the bottom.

Hmm, The Weather Zone is display:none/javascripted to display:block, so
that I can understand, but why not the very bottom date-line? If you had
j/s on, the vid crap (which precedes those) could be interferring, I
s'pose.

Other than that, that page is pretty much the same.

Munch Test. And I never thought I'd be writing that phrase.

I do see the Css Check|Html Check|30 Sep 06 line at the bottom in Konq;
so that page *is* the same in both browsers.

Planet Venus pages match well.

Ditto the alt link from there.

So except for the missing stuff at the bottom of the default page, if
you've seen it in Firefox you've seen it in Konqueror.

Thanks for checking. I'll look over the problem area you mentioned and
see if I can heuristically determine a cause.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 06:11:10
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:


Hmm, The Weather Zone is display:none/javascripted to display:block, so
that I can understand, but why not the very bottom date-line? If you had
j/s on, the vid crap (which precedes those) could be interferring, I
s'pose.

js was enabled. Now I see those two things below the TinyURL stuff.
Did you just make a change? I didn't.

 

[dorayme]

Well, at least that was one of the more equitable rejections I've ever
heard in my life.

You see, that is what is so fascinating about your chaotically
filthy mind: an inability to know what to edit, an acceptance of
a threat to a ghastly murder as equity, and a laughable
misconception about where you stand in relation to the attribute
of flakiness. O... and by the way, I am not your type, I am not
inflatable.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:44:12
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:

js was enabled. Now I see those two things below the TinyURL stuff.
Did you just make a change? I didn't.

-Not even my skivvies. Perhaps it's simply a case of the virginal
attempt being a bit awkwardly culminated.

I checked the page and there seems no reason that at least the bottom
line (test html...) shouldn't appear. Perhaps it's the server and/or
php affecting transmission. Who knows.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:44:12
GMT Blinky the Shark scribed:


-Not even my skivvies. Perhaps it's simply a case of the virginal
attempt being a bit awkwardly culminated.

I checked the page and there seems no reason that at least the bottom
line (test html...) shouldn't appear. Perhaps it's the server and/or
php affecting transmission. Who knows.

Strange.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:02:20
GMT dorayme scribed:

You see, that is what is so fascinating about your chaotically
filthy mind: an inability to know what to edit, an acceptance of
a threat to a ghastly murder as equity, and a laughable
misconception about where you stand in relation to the attribute
of flakiness. O... and by the way, I am not your type, I am not
inflatable.

Ah, yes, a moment ago in newsgroup time it was "Oh, darling..." and now
it's this guff. And women wonder why men consider them unstable! You
didn't answer my question, either, which suggests a guilt complex of
Amazonian proportions.

Anyway, in regard to threats and murder, I am absolutely fearless. I
learned jew-jitsoo kabutzing with some buttheads in Tel Aviv, so it's
doubtful that anyone originating from such a naive country as Australia
could get the best of me. I don't like to brag, but even my thingy is
one of my lethal weapons, if you get the drift.

Stating that you're uninflatable implies that you can't get pregnant, and
so much the better. However, if I've misinterpreted the import of your
predilection, you could always try blowing me up. 'Wouldn't say a word.

 

[dorayme]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:02:20
GMT dorayme scribed:


Ah, yes, a moment ago in newsgroup time it was "Oh, darling..." and now
it's this guff.

Anyway, in regard to threats and murder, I am absolutely fearless. I
learned jew-jitsoo kabutzing with some buttheads in Tel Aviv, so it's
doubtful that anyone originating from such a naive country as Australia
could get the best of me.

Please see what Harrison Ford did to that fearsome, wildly sword
swishing Arab in Raiders of the Lost Ark. see the nonchalence
with which this seemingly formidable foe was despatched.

I don't like to brag, but even my thingy is
one of my lethal weapons, if you get the drift.
Stating that you're uninflatable implies that you can't get pregnant, and
so much the better. However, if I've misinterpreted the import of your
predilection, you could always try blowing me up. 'Wouldn't say a word.

Look Boji, it is simple enough. If you had the power to see
through anything above your pants, you would notice that my
reactions to you are always based on your behaviour. Do you
really suppose that I am going to be all goodness and sweetness
when you make disgusting and public advances towards me in the
crudest possible manner. If you are going to make (even very
misguided advances) towards the woman in me, then at the very
least, sorry if this is too yuppy for you, you should see how
Elizabeth reacted to Mr Darcy's first proposal of marriage in
Pride and Prejudice.

When you are nice, my heart warms towards you and I say nice
sweet things back. I phrase things here in order to maximise the
possibility of Travis retching his guts out at such
sentimentality. I like to see Republicans suffer badly.

Be nice and stop keeping bad company. Perhaps you are basically a
decent boy. Perhaps it is the bad company you keep

Or swim with.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:32:36
GMT dorayme scribed:

Please see what Harrison Ford did to that fearsome, wildly sword
swishing Arab in Raiders of the Lost Ark. see the nonchalence
with which this seemingly formidable foe was despatched.

Ahh, the "formidable foe" got paid thousands of dollars to take a fake
dive. I should croak so lucky.

Look Boji, it is simple enough. If you had the power to see
through anything above your pants, you would notice that my
reactions to you are always based on your behaviour. Do you
really suppose that I am going to be all goodness and sweetness
when you make disgusting and public advances towards me in the
crudest possible manner. If you are going to make (even very
misguided advances) towards the woman in me, then at the very
least, sorry if this is too yuppy for you, you should see how
Elizabeth reacted to Mr Darcy's first proposal of marriage in
Pride and Prejudice.

When you are nice, my heart warms towards you and I say nice
sweet things back. I phrase things here in order to maximise the
possibility of Travis retching his guts out at such
sentimentality. I like to see Republicans suffer badly.

Be nice and stop keeping bad company. Perhaps you are basically a
decent boy. Perhaps it is the bad company you keep

Or swim with.

Gosh, it's hard to argue with such a logically-presented argument as
that. And you're right. It's all Blinky's fault. He's a bad influence.
Duende, too. Not to mention that I picked up a few nasty traits from
Jukka, as well. There are others whose names I hesitate to mention
because they would probably yell at me. Ain't seen "Pride and
Prejudice", but to cite another girlie flick, as Jack Nicklaus said to
Holly Hunter in "As Good As It Got", 'You just make me want to stop being
a ham.'

On the other side of the bucket, I've probably been a wee bit overzealous
in pointing out your boo boos here, so in future I will endeavor to point
elsewhere. This, of course, is predicated on the assumption that you
refrain from belaboring my boo boos, also, no matter how few and far-
between they may be. I suppose we can agree on this; neither men nor
women really like to have their boo boos pointed out, unless, naturally,
there is a point to such pointedness which satifies both the appointing
party and the appointed party in a non-pointless manner.

Now that we have all that worked out, Happy Kangaroo Day!.

PS: I really don't know when Kangaroo Day is but I thought I'd get a
"jump start".