Simple HTML table structure issue/question.

[Blinky the Shark]

Once more -- what's your point, here?

(e-mail address removed) .. noway just avoiding spam.

By abusing this company's servers. Do you have a reading comprehension
problem of some kind? Stop being a jerk.

Still more clues for you here, newb:

 

[Barbara de Zoete]

I never said I was wrong or right. It just pisses me off when you ask for
help and someone has to come along and give negative comments. I asked for
help.. I was already aware that my code was flawed.

Little Works Studio is a very ugly site!

You're going about this the right way, aren't you? Insulting those that could be
of help. If your work is critisized, it is not _you_ who is critisized. It just
means your work sucks. Get those two seperated and life in usenet will be a lot
more easy.
Secondly, it is bad manners to throw with insulting remarks on other peoples
sites just because yours gets a lot of critique.
It is also bad manners to not follow conventions of a group (like deleting the
signature of the messages you reply to).

What does this all add up to? You're just another rude person who tries to
extract some help as if this was a paid for help desk. A one shot deal, anything
to get his problem solved. Who cares what usegroups are for and who participates
and why?
Don't like it here? Get a refund and leave. Please close the door on you way out.

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[Toby Inkster]

You know what... The code is way to simplistic and short to be called
atrocious..

No. http://www.thedream.ca is not simplistic.

http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/dream is simplistic. And it works.

 

[PeterMcC]

Toby Inkster wrote in

No. http://www.thedream.ca is not simplistic.

http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/dream is simplistic. And it works.

It may be that the appropriate word is "simple" rather than "simplistic"
since simplistic, by definition, doesn't work - and your page, as always,
does.

 

[nAnd0]

You're going about this the right way, aren't you? Insulting those that
could be of help. If your work is critisized, it is not _you_ who is
critisized. It just means your work sucks. Get those two seperated and
life in usenet will be a lot more easy.
Secondly, it is bad manners to throw with insulting remarks on other
peoples sites just because yours gets a lot of critique.
It is also bad manners to not follow conventions of a group (like deleting
the signature of the messages you reply to).

What does this all add up to? You're just another rude person who tries to
extract some help as if this was a paid for help desk. A one shot deal,
anything to get his problem solved. Who cares what usegroups are for and
who participates and why?
Don't like it here? Get a refund and leave. Please close the door on you
way out.

You've got to be kidding me .. wow.
.. relax.

 

[nAnd0]

No. http://www.thedream.ca is not simplistic.

http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/dream is simplistic. And it works.

That is impressive code.
Lacking the table structure designed for future content.
I have lots to learn I admit.

For the record prior to the previous insults flying back in forth I posted a
thank you to the group.

----Sat Sept 3 2:27pm EST----------------------------------------------
Thanks for all your help people ..
I just simply restructred the table and got the results I was looking for.
Now IE and Firefox display the same.

http://www.thedream.ca

Thanks again.

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Toby Inkster quothed:

No. http://www.thedream.ca is not simplistic.

http://examples.tobyinkster.co.uk/dream is simplistic. And it works.

You don't append ".css" onto the filename of your style sheet?
Apparently it's unnecessary...

 

[David Dorward]

You don't append ".css" onto the filename of your style sheet?

Its the web. There is no "filename" as far as the user agent is concerned,
only a URL (and what type of data is determined by the Content-Type
header). There *might* be a file on the remote system (or a database, or
something held in memory, or something composed of multiple files, or
generated randomly, or ...) but that's the concern of the server.

 

[Toby Inkster]

You don't append ".css" onto the filename of your style sheet?
Apparently it's unnecessary...

Of course it is. Just make sure your server sends the right Content-Type
HTTP header.

 

[frank s]

"Back when HTML was first around" such coding would have been atrocious
too. There was a short period between 1996 and 2000 when it was
commonplace. (Still atrocious though.)

What do you think of the code now?
http://www.thedream.ca

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

frank s wrote:

What do you think of the code now?
http://www.thedream.ca

<snip>

1: You need to discover the difference between a SPAN and a DIV and dump
the <BR>s. Hint: SPAN inline element, DIV block element (creates new line)

2: Starting to use style, good, so use it instead of deprecated element
CENTER and deprecated attributes BGCOLOR & ALIGN

 

[Toby Inkster]

What do you think of the code now?
http://www.thedream.ca

It's still overcomplicated : unneeded <br>s and <table>s; but far better
than it was before.

My one big suggestion to improve it though, would be to replace:

<span class="title">thedream.ca</span><br>

with:

<h1>thedream.ca</h1>

so that your page has a proper heading. You might then need to make one
or two adjustments to your CSS to keep the same look, such as setting
h1{font-weight:normal}.

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, David Dorward quothed:

Its the web. There is no "filename" as far as the user agent is concerned,
only a URL (and what type of data is determined by the Content-Type
header). There *might* be a file on the remote system (or a database, or
something held in memory, or something composed of multiple files, or
generated randomly, or ...) but that's the concern of the server.

Still, it seems like anathema to OSdom. But whatever.

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, Toby Inkster quothed:

Of course it is. Just make sure your server sends the right Content-Type
HTTP header.

Never knew that though I understand the significance of headers.

 

[frank s]

frank s wrote:

<snip>

1: You need to discover the difference between a SPAN and a DIV and dump
the <BR>s. Hint: SPAN inline element, DIV block element (creates new line)

2: Starting to use style, good, so use it instead of deprecated element
CENTER and deprecated attributes BGCOLOR & ALIGN

Ok ... will also look into dropping <center> tags.. and will define my
background colour in my CSS file.

Thanks again.

 

[frank s]

It's still overcomplicated : unneeded <br>s and <table>s; but far better
than it was before.

My one big suggestion to improve it though, would be to replace:

<span class="title">thedream.ca</span><br>

with:

<h1>thedream.ca</h1>

I hate header and p tags... I personaly try to avoid them as much as
possible.
I was under the impression that they too one day will be discouraged to use.

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

frank s wrote:

Alright .. so Im guessing with the use of DIV I can drop the use of <br>.
Ok Ill try

Yes, and if you need more space either above or below the block of text
adjust the margin-top and margin-bottom properties, don't add BRs

Ok ... will also look into dropping <center> tags.. and will define my

<snip>

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=css+center+table&btnG=Google+Search

 

[Jonathan N. Little]

frank s wrote:

I hate header and p tags... I personaly try to avoid them as much as
possible.
I was under the impression that they too one day will be discouraged to use.

<snip>
Why? H# headers build a documents structure into sections and
subsections....remember the outline you were suppose to do for term
papers in school!

And P are paragraphs! Fundamental in writing. Paragraphs are supposed to
break down the document into smaller, logical, discrete and digestible bits.

 

[frank s]

frank s wrote:



Yes, and if you need more space either above or below the block of text
adjust the margin-top and margin-bottom properties, don't add BRs

<snip>

thanks again .. did all that you recomended. Much cleaner code.
http://thedream.ca

 

[Toby Inkster]

I hate header and p tags... I personaly try to avoid them as much as
possible.

Why? That's just plain silly.

I was under the impression that they too one day will be discouraged to
use.

I don't know where you're getting that impression from.

XHTML version 2.0 is due to scrap <h1> and <h6> in favour of a more
flexible <h> element. This will allow authors to use more levels of
headings that the existing six. So headers aren't disappearing --
they're getting even better!