solution for IE6 .setAttribute bug?

[fazfazzi]

hello
how can i fix this? I know how to do if the attribute is css-related,
but what if it's an html attribute,
like checked="checked" ?
Thanks

 

[David Mark]

hello
how can i fix this? I know how to do if the attribute is css-related,

Fix what? And, other than "style" and "class", attributes aren't CSS-
related. Each of those attributes will cause problems in IE when
using get/setAttribute, but each for different reasons and not because
they are related to CSS.

but what if it's an html attribute,
like checked="checked" ?

Open up your playbook. Scratch out get/setAttribute. Go from there.
Hint: we just went over this.

As for your subject line, there is no IE bug related to get/
setAttribute (they are broken as designed.) And all released versions
of IE work the same in this regard. Hopefully MS will figure out how
to implement these methods in a future version of IE.

 

[fazfazzi]

Fix what?  And, other than "style" and "class", attributes aren't CSS-
related.  Each of those attributes will cause problems in IE when
using get/setAttribute, but each for different reasons and not because
they are related to CSS.


Open up your playbook.  Scratch out get/setAttribute.  Go from there.
Hint: we just went over this.

As for your subject line, there is no IE bug related to get/
setAttribute (they are broken as designed.)  And all released versions
of IE work the same in this regard.  Hopefully MS will figure out how
to implement these methods in a future version of IE.

Um sorry i replied to your email address
So, i really need to set unset attribute dinamically via jscript. If
not with setAttribute, how?

 

[David Mark]

Um sorry i replied to your email address

That's okay. I deleted it.

So, i really need to set unset attribute dinamically via jscript. If
not with setAttribute, how?

With properties. Try searching the archive. We *just* went over this.

 

[Martin Honnen]

So, i really need to set unset attribute dinamically via jscript. If
not with setAttribute, how?

In the JavaScript/ECMAScript binding of the HTML DOM the element objects
have typed properties corresponding to (most of) the attributes so you
can set e.g.
element.id = 'someId';
or
formControlElement.tabIndex = 2;
or
inputElement.checked = true;

Note that the 'class' attribute is scripted as the 'className' property.

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

how can i fix this?

^
Fix your Shift key? Get a new keyboard, or install Brain 1.0.
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I know how to do

Do what?

if the attribute is css-related, but what if it's an html attribute,

^^^ ^^^^
All attributes in an HTML document MUST be HTML attributes, else the
document is not Valid; see <http://validator.w3.org/>.

Even the `style' attribute, which you may refer to, is an HTML
attribute. It is only loosely CSS-related, as per Specification the
language used within its value may be any style-sheet language (that's
why you SHOULD declare

<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">

although some user agents appear to take that as a default for this
attribute.)

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#h-14.2.1>

BTW, HTML is an acronym for the HyperText Markup Language, and CSS is an
acronym for Cascading Style Sheets, respectively; they must be written
in *UPPERCASE*.

like checked="checked" ?

That's not really an HTML attribute as far as many HTML user agents are
concerned. They like the simple `checked' much better:

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/appendix/notes.html#h-B.3.4>

And since it is a boolean attribute, you would assign `true' to the
corresponding property in order to set it and `false' in order to unset
it, provided that's what you are up to.

<http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-HTML/html.html#ID-30233917>
<http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-2-HTML/ecma-script-binding.html>


PointedEars

 

[David Mark]

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Do what?


                      ^^^                              ^^^^
All attributes in an HTML document MUST be HTML attributes, else the
document is not Valid; see <http://validator.w3.org/>.

Even the `style' attribute, which you may refer to, is an HTML
attribute.  It is only loosely CSS-related, as per Specification the
language used within its value may be any style-sheet language (that's
why you SHOULD declare

<meta http-equiv="Content-Style-Type" content="text/css">

although some user agents appear to take that as a default for this
attribute.)

<http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/styles.html#h-14.2.1>

BTW, HTML is an acronym for the HyperText Markup Language, and CSS is an
acronym for Cascading Style Sheets, respectively; they must be written
in *UPPERCASE*.

They are abbreviations, but not acronyms.

[snip]

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

[snipped full quote]

BTW, HTML is an acronym for the HyperText Markup Language, and CSS is an
acronym for Cascading Style Sheets, respectively; they must be written
in *UPPERCASE*.

They are abbreviations, but not acronyms.

You are off-topic.

As for me, the distinctive property of an acronym is that it consists of
the leading characters of the words it means; as in *H*yper*T*ext
*M*arkup *L*angage, and *C*ascading *S*tyle *S*heets. On the other
hand, mere abbreviations such as `etc.', `ibid.', don't share that property.

YMMV.


PointedEars

 

[David Mark]

[snipped full quote]

BTW, HTML is an acronym for the HyperText Markup Language, and CSS is an
acronym for Cascading Style Sheets, respectively; they must be written
in *UPPERCASE*.

They are abbreviations, but not acronyms.

You are off-topic.

Oh, Jesus. You are right, of course. What was I thinking?

As for me, the distinctive property of an acronym is that it consists of

And this is not OT?

the leading characters of the words it means; as in *H*yper*T*ext
*M*arkup *L*angage, and *C*ascading *S*tyle *S*heets.  On the other
hand, mere abbreviations such as `etc.', `ibid.', don't share that property.

Good rule of thumb: if you can pronounce it (and it is made up of
characters found in the abbreviated words), it is an acronym. Radar,
laser, fubar, STENDEC, etc. are acronyms; HTML and CSS are not.

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Oh, Jesus. You are right, of course. What was I thinking?

Apparently you were not thinking at that time.

And this is not OT?

Hence the "[OT]" in the Subject, which you snipped.

the leading characters of the words it means; as in *H*yper*T*extI
*M*arkup *L*angage, and *C*ascading *S*tyle *S*heets. On the other
hand, mere abbreviations such as `etc.', `ibid.', don't share that property.

Good rule of thumb: if you can pronounce it (and it is made up of
characters found in the abbreviated words), it is an acronym. [...]

Ahh, that: Eightch-tea-em-el. See-es-es. Worksforme.


HTH & HAND

F'up2 PointedEars

 

[David Mark]

Oh, Jesus.  You are right, of course.  What was I thinking?

Apparently you were not thinking at that time.

And this is not OT?

Hence the "[OT]" in the Subject, which you snipped.

Good rule of thumb: if you can pronounce it (and it is made up of
characters found in the abbreviated words), it is an acronym.  [...]

Ahh, that: Eightch-tea-em-el.  See-es-es.  Worksforme.

Pronounce as a word (reciting letters doesn't count.)

HTH & HAND

FU

[snip]

 

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
BTW, HTML is an acronym for the HyperText Markup Language, and CSS is an
acronym for Cascading Style Sheets, respectively; they must be written
in *UPPERCASE*.
They are abbreviations, but not acronyms.
As for me, the distinctive property of an acronym is that it consists of
the leading characters of the words it means; as in *H*yper*T*extI
*M*arkup *L*angage, and *C*ascading *S*tyle *S*heets. On the other
hand, mere abbreviations such as `etc.', `ibid.', don't share that property.
Good rule of thumb: if you can pronounce it (and it is made up of
characters found in the abbreviated words), it is an acronym. [...]

Ahh, that: Eightch-tea-em-el. See-es-es. Worksforme.

Pronounce as a word (reciting letters doesn't count.)

HTH & HAND

FU

 

[Trevor Lawrence]

HTML and CSS are initialisms

Another example is ATM, but PIN is an acronym

Feel free to criticise me to your hearts' content because I top-posted
--
Trevor Lawrence
Canberra
Web Site http://trevorl.mvps.org

David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
David Mark wrote:
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
BTW, HTML is an acronym for the HyperText Markup Language, and CSS
is an
acronym for Cascading Style Sheets, respectively; they must be
written
in *UPPERCASE*.
They are abbreviations, but not acronyms.
As for me, the distinctive property of an acronym is that it consists
of
the leading characters of the words it means; as in *H*yper*T*extI
*M*arkup *L*angage, and *C*ascading *S*tyle *S*heets. On the other
hand, mere abbreviations such as `etc.', `ibid.', don't share that
property.
Good rule of thumb: if you can pronounce it (and it is made up of
characters found in the abbreviated words), it is an acronym. [...]
Ahh, that: Eightch-tea-em-el. See-es-es. Worksforme.

Pronounce as a word (reciting letters doesn't count.)

HTH & HAND

FU

--
But he had not that supreme gift of the artist,
the knowledge of when to stop.
-- Sherlock Holmes in A. C. Doyle's
"The Adventure of the Norwood Builder"

 

[John G Harris]

Good rule of thumb: if you can pronounce it (and it is made up of
characters found in the abbreviated words), it is an acronym. Radar,
laser, fubar, STENDEC, etc. are acronyms; HTML and CSS are not.

That's not a clear distinction. Take SCSI. Some people pronounce it ess
see ess aye; some pronounce it scuzzy. Do you say it's both an acronym
and not an acronym at the same time, or do you say it's neither ?

What do you say about cwm when it's used as an English word ?

John

 

[The Natural Philosopher]

That's not a clear distinction. Take SCSI. Some people pronounce it ess
see ess aye; some pronounce it scuzzy. Do you say it's both an acronym
and not an acronym at the same time, or do you say it's neither ?

What do you say about cwm when it's used as an English word ?

John

According to Wiki, if its spoken as initials it's an initialism, if its
spoken as a word it's an acronym.

Both are forms of abbreviations,. but abbrevations don't need to be
either acronyms or initialisms.


Oh and CWM *is* an english word. From the welsh. Cf a corrie. An
probably a coombe, as well.
;-)

 

[David Mark]

That's not a clear distinction. Take SCSI. Some people pronounce it ess
see ess aye; some pronounce it scuzzy. Do you say it's both an acronym
and not an acronym at the same time, or do you say it's neither ?

I'd say it doesn't fit this particular rule of thumb. And it isn't so
much whether it can be pronounced, but whether it is intended to be.
You can call SCSI what you like, but I see it as an abbreviation that
people attempt to pronounce as a word (with less than accurate
results.)

 

[John G Harris]

I'd say it doesn't fit this particular rule of thumb. And it isn't so
much whether it can be pronounced, but whether it is intended to be.
You can call SCSI what you like, but I see it as an abbreviation that
people attempt to pronounce as a word (with less than accurate
results.)

It was the IEEE committee members who thought it should be pronounced
scuzzy, or so I was told at the time by a committee member. I'm glad
there are other people who think it was daft.

I was also told that 'specification' guarantees compatibility between
different products, whereas 'standard' guarantees that you can sell your
product to the Department of Defence. Nothing changes :-(

John