Test requested

B

Blinky the Shark

B

Blinky the Shark

saz said:
There is no way you looked at this in Mozilla or Firefox. Don't you see
what I see on your services page? The div box at the top in IE is
halfway down the page in Mozilla. The bottom with all your widgets
overlaps the middle div in all browsers.

Datapoint: None of that is happening on that page with Firefox here.
 
K

kchayka

P

paul

Looks mostly fine to me, nothing offensive or ugly or broken badly.
Simple is good.

The title could be smaller.

If you are really concerned about bandwidth the pictures could be
compressed a bit more.

In IE the contact & services buttons overlap wrong. It'd be less
confusing to include a home link there also. Check out the css using a
list for my menu (bottom of page) for ideas to make it work:
http://www.edgehill.net/1

<ul class="menu">
<li class="menu-first"><a href=".." title="index page">Home</a></li>
<li class="menu"><a href=".." title="photo gallery">Gallery</a></li>
<li class="menu"><a href=".." title="Edgehill Mtn">Edgehill</a></li>
<li class="menu"><a href=".." title="reference">Html links</a></li>
<li class="menu"><a href=".." title="about Paul">About</a></li>
<li class="menu-last"><a href=".." title="email">Contact</a></li>
</ul>

ul.menu {
margin: 0;
/* margin-bottom: 1px; */
padding: 0;
border-bottom: 1px solid #444;
border-top: 1px solid #444;
}

li.menu {
display: inline;
margin: 0; /*top right bottom left*/
padding: 0 0.5em 0 0.5em;
/* padding: 0;
padding-left: 0.5em;
padding-right: 0.5em; */
}
li.menu-first {
display: inline;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0.5em 0 1.5em;
/* padding: 0;
padding-left: 1.5em;
padding-right: 0.5em;*/
}
li.menu-last {
display: inline;
margin: 0;
padding: 0 1.5em 0 0.5em;
/*padding-left: 0.5em;
padding-right: 1.5em; */
}
 
R

Richard

My 45 year old eyes are having trouble reading your font, and I am your
target audience.
Although you claim to be HTML compliant (and you are) you clearly have
not tested this page in Mozilla or Firefox, or you would see a bigger
disaster than what is displayed in IE. Compliant Code does not mean your
site will work as desired.
IMO, It is not an attractive site and you need to start all over.

Read what he posted. He knows it sucks. You were such an expert with your
first site? Sure you were oh great wizard of knowledge.
 
R

Richard

Timothy said:
Good day, I'm requesting a test of my page. Before some guru comes back
with how lame the page is, please understand that I'm not a web designer.
I'm just a gardener who is trying to learn css. The page is being served
off my personal machine and the speeds are poor, hence the lack of lots of
graphics.
Like I've said before, I'm trying to learn css and how to position boxes,
so the page is more about structure than graphic style.
Thanks for looking.

Using firefox, service page opened up in html text.
Looking at the source code I see this:
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" <<<<<check here
http-equiv="content-type">

Check and make sure you don't have an embedded "return" after the 1" instead
of a space.

I copied the source code into my editor and it viewed just fine without the
images.
I deleted the unknown character after the 1" and it appears you may have a
"tab" space rather than a true blank space, as the line characteristics
changed.
 
S

saz

Read what he posted. He knows it sucks. You were such an expert with your
first site? Sure you were oh great wizard of knowledge.

You're a sarcastic twit that just made it to my bozo bin.
 
T

Timothy

Using firefox, service page opened up in html text. Looking at the source
code I see this: <head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" <<<<<check here
http-equiv="content-type">

Check and make sure you don't have an embedded "return" after the 1"
instead of a space.

I copied the source code into my editor and it viewed just fine without
the images.
I deleted the unknown character after the 1" and it appears you may have a
"tab" space rather than a true blank space, as the line characteristics
changed.

Great catch there. I've made the change. It turns out there was two spaces
there. This hopefuly will solve the issue. As far as the 401 error goes
with some folks... 401 is an authorization denined error. I have a
..htaccess file that points to different server errors pages than default.
This must be the issue with the 401 errors.

Thanks for your time...
 
O

Oli Filth

Richard said:
Timothy wrote:




Using firefox, service page opened up in html text.
Looking at the source code I see this:
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" <<<<<check here
http-equiv="content-type">

Check and make sure you don't have an embedded "return" after the 1" instead
of a space.

I copied the source code into my editor and it viewed just fine without the
images.
I deleted the unknown character after the 1" and it appears you may have a
"tab" space rather than a true blank space, as the line characteristics
changed.

Doesn't matter. White space is ignored.

Oli
 
B

Blinky the Shark

Great catch there. I've made the change. It turns out there was two spaces
there. This hopefuly will solve the issue. As far as the 401 error goes

Now I get nothing on your service page, and source only shows this:

-----------------------

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="content-type">
<title>Yard Works Gardening Co.</title>


</head>
<body>




</body>

</html>
 
T

Timothy

Now I get nothing on your service page, and source only shows this:
<Sniped>


Umm...hehehe, seems that you caught me with my pants down on that one. I'm
starting the rebuilding process. The index page is being played with as I
type. Hope to have the structure finished tonight and will work on the
colors and art tomorrow.
 
L

Leif K-Brooks

saz said:
My 45 year old eyes are having trouble reading your font, and I am your
target audience.

So set your browser's font size to be larger. Timothy isn't defining a
font-size for his main body text -- a good idea -- so the size will be
whatever you set it to be.
 
T

Timothy

Wanna go on a swell snipe hunt with us?

Snipe hunt.... sure thing. I'm a loadin' the nerf gun right now.

Ew. I'm glad there was no gif. :)

Hey now a gif, that's not a bad idea altogether. I'm thinking something
animated would be nice 8-P
 
S

saz

So set your browser's font size to be larger. Timothy isn't defining a
font-size for his main body text -- a good idea -- so the size will be
whatever you set it to be.
But your average viewer will not adjust his font size, so you need to
choose a font that looks good in a typical resolution. This font at a
"3", 1em, 100%, or whatever is too small. It is much better as it is
now in Arial instead of a fantasy font.
 
R

rf

saz said:
But your average viewer will not adjust his font size, so you need to
choose a font that looks good in a typical resolution. This font at a
"3", 1em, 100%, or whatever is too small. It is much better as it is
now in Arial instead of a fantasy font.

Excuse me for shouting but, BULL SHIT.

How on earth do you know what is the best font size for your viewers system?
You do not. At best you would be either guessing or basing it on *your*
system. At worst you get it so horribly wrong that the viewer simply goes
elsewhere.

If *you* don't like the font set to what is was when you opened the box then
RTFM and find out how to change it.

As to "your average viewer", if they can not read the font as it came out of
the box then how the bloody hell to they read the rest of the desktop, you
know, the icon or start menu they have to use to start the browser in the
first place?

Please cite the evidence for your statement that this average viewer will
not adjust his[sic] font size.

If they can not read the out of the box font size then they *will* find out
how to change it, if only by complaining to the sales person who sold it to
them. Then again if they couldn't read it they would not have purchased the
computer in the first bloody place :)

I suppose next you will be changing the colour of my scroll bars for me, or
moving the screen closer to my face, or buying me a bigger monitor, all
because *you* think this is good for *me*.
 
D

Duende

While sitting in a puddle rf scribbled in the mud:
buying me a bigger monitor, all
because *you* think this is good for *me*.

Great, me too. I could live with that.
 
C

C.W.

[snip]
I suppose next you will be changing the colour of my scroll bars for me, or
moving the screen closer to my face, or buying me a bigger monitor, all
because *you* think this is good for *me*.

Well, if they are willing to buy me a new monitor - I won't quibble;
doesn't mean I would or would not change the font size just that I
would have a larger monitor [which would be good for me but only
because my current monitor is showing its age]. ;)

Carol
 

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