The daemon helper, dh is its name

[John Kelly]

The daemon helper, dh is its name.

It's a small C program that starts any program or shell command as a
daemon, then gets out of the way.

Yes I know there are various others. But this is one I wrote, and I
gave it an Apache license.

If you don't like the name "dh" for whatever reason, you can patch the
Makefile and source to give it whatever name you like. Perhaps "dprime"
(daemon primer), or "dp" for a short name.

ftp://ftp.beewyz.com/users/jar/etcetera/computer/programming/project/dh/

Yes I know you can fork,setsid,exec in Perl too. But the daemon helper
covers some bases you might not think of, when throwing your Perl script
together. And a tool that already does the job for you, saves time.

 

[Uri Guttman]

BM> Why are you posting this here?

because he doesn't like how i paTROL the group?

but a good question that he is not likely to answer. asking him
questions about his reasoning is taken as a personal insult.

uri

 

[John Kelly]

Maybe because it is "news", as in Network News Transfer Protocol?

Because it can start a Perl script as a daemon, without any need to
fork,setsid,exec in your perl script. I use it myself, to start Perl
scripts as never ending daemons.

Not every post must answer a question. People like to read news too,
though I understand why control freaks hate news, as it threatens their
territorial domain.

 

[Jürgen Exner]

Because it can start a Perl script as a daemon,[/QUOTE]

I bet it can start a Haskell or C# or Lisp program, too. Did you post in
the corresponding groups for those languages too?

jue

 

[John Kelly]

I bet it can start a Haskell or C# or Lisp program, too. Did you post in
the corresponding groups for those languages too?

Not yet.

It's topical for a Perl group, because Perl provides sockets and other
features typically used in daemons. The daemon helper lets you omit the
Perl code required for daemon bootstrapping, and focus more readily on
your application, saving time and work.

 

[Ted Zlatanov]

JK> It's topical for a Perl group, because Perl provides sockets and other
JK> features typically used in daemons. The daemon helper lets you omit the
JK> Perl code required for daemon bootstrapping, and focus more readily on
JK> your application, saving time and work.

I don't think it's relevant to Perl specifically as it does not offer
any features Perl does not have, does not extend or contribute to
existing Perl code, and has no Perl interfaces. It's like posting here
about your new car because it can drive you to work where you could
write Perl code.

You should try to popularize your software but this way you will just
annoy people. Try reddit.com for instance.

Ted

 

[John Kelly]

JK> It's topical for a Perl group, because Perl provides sockets and other
JK> features typically used in daemons. The daemon helper lets you omit the
JK> Perl code required for daemon bootstrapping, and focus more readily on
JK> your application, saving time and work.

I don't think it's relevant to Perl specifically as it does not offer
any features Perl does not have

How would you know that without using it.

does not extend or contribute to existing Perl code, and has no Perl
interfaces.

So I can't discuss awk, sed, or shell features, and compare or contrast
them to Perl features, because they don't have "Perl interfaces"?

It's like posting here about your new car because it can drive you
to work where you could write Perl code.

That's a stretched analogy.

You should try to popularize your software but this way you will just
annoy people.

Maybe. But popularity is not my goal. It's a niche tool, not many
people attempt to write daemons of any kind, much less in Perl. I put
it out there for the few who may. It helps me save work and time, and
it can help other people too.

If you're not interested in a thread, or it seems off topic to you, why
not ignore it. Every complaint is another opportunity for me to discuss
it.

Try reddit.com for instance

Thanks, but it looks too noisy to be helpful.

 

[John Kelly]

Doing so encourages more off-topic threads.

I believe not.

there's a chance ... that someone doesn't realize that they're behaving
badly, and may therefore appreciate being told about it, so as to avoid
being rude in the future.

Some people use newsgroups as a social structure where they hang out and
meet friends. So they expect newcomers to behave like themselves. But
I don't use newsgroups that way. To me they are an information resource
and little more. I'm not interested in your social group's approval.

That's what happens in a free-for-all which doesn't take topicality
very seriously. So the question is, why do you want to turn this group
into such an unhelpful place as that?

The complainers are making more noise than my original post. If you
can't ignore me, you have no one but yourselves to blame.

 

[sreservoir]

I believe not.

you believe wrongly.

Some people use newsgroups as a social structure where they hang out and
meet friends. So they expect newcomers to behave like themselves. But
I don't use newsgroups that way. To me they are an information resource
and little more. I'm not interested in your social group's approval.

newsgroups _are_ social structure. treat them as such.

The complainers are making more noise than my original post. If you
can't ignore me, you have no one but yourselves to blame.

see upthread.

 

[John Kelly]

you believe wrongly.

How can you be sure.

newsgroups _are_ social structure. treat them as such.

Well I don't mean to belittle anyone who has few other social outlets,
so let me apologize if my words caused offense. But I just can't get
into the spirit of group think online. I need face to face contact for
that.

For those who want to continue discussing psychology, please change the
subject. By now, we are far more off topic than the daemon helper ever
was.

 

[Ted Zlatanov]

JK> If you're not interested in a thread, or it seems off topic to you, why
JK> not ignore it. Every complaint is another opportunity for me to discuss
JK> it.

I'm really not complaining and I have nothing against your software. I
was trying to help you find an audience; I can assure you c.l.p.misc is
not it and I tried to explain why it's not relevant and why people are
annoyed. If reddit.com is not to your liking, try freshmeat.com or any
of the other places software is announced.

Ted