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I wondering if there are any serious data showing compatibilty in % of
flash web sites.
Help!
TIA
flash web sites.
Help!
TIA
- said:I wondering if there are any serious data showing compatibilty in % of
flash web sites.
Help!
I wondering if there are any serious data showing compatibilty in % of
flash web sites.
I wondering if there are any serious data showing compatibilty in % of
flash web sites.
Travis Newbury said:What do you mean "compatibility"? Do you mean how many people have
the potential of seeing Flash? Well that number is in the 90% range.
But why does it matter? If using a blue background brings you more
business than using a red background, then you would be dumb to not
use the Blue background. If using Flash brings you more business than
not using flash, then you would be dumb to not use Flash.
Use the technology(s) that brings you the most business. It is a
simple concept that seems to elude many people here.
asdf said:Hurrah, at last. Well said.
"El Kabong said:It's
win-win for the designer because, he might get more work getting rid of the
Flash later on.
El said:So if Flash trips the owner's trigger, he should have it, and who knows,
maybe he knows *his* clientele better than the designer knows them.
Or maybe he doesn't. Business people think *lots* of things about
customers that aren't true....
Harlan said:Or maybe he doesn't. Business people think *lots* of things about
customers that aren't true.
Travis said:MTV.com went from an HTML site to an all flash site
But after watching the site for a while, they notices a
decrease in visitors and revenue from the site. So they went back to
a HTML site with some heavy usage of Flash where it was most
appropriate.
I would have expected a different outcome from a site in the
entertainment industry. Very interesting.
Travis said:Lets use MTV.com as an example. MTV.com went from an HTML site to an
all flash site because they knew their visitors liked the way MTV was
presenting itself with Flash. Well the Business side said "Hey lets
make the entire site Flash based because they like Flash so much!"
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And they did. But after watching the site for a while, they notices a
decrease in visitors and revenue from the site. So they went back to
a HTML site with some heavy usage of Flash where it was most
appropriate.
- said:I wondering if there are any serious data showing compatibilty in % of
flash web sites.
Consider http://www.perisherblue.com.au/winter/snowreport/index.php ,
where I live for parts of the winter. The, to me, totally intrusive
flash of a bloody flying flag advertising a motorway, of all things,
almost prevents me from reading the content of this page. It's the 'is
that a tiger in the trees?' subconscious compulsion. If it moves it
_must_ be looked at.
Even worse is
http://www.perisherblue.com.au/winter/snowreport/v_eight.php , a
picture I like to sort of use as wallpaper on a spare screen (the page
refreshes every 30 minutes, I can see the conditions throughout the
day).
Well, I finally got cranky with it and started googling. Found
flashblock: http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
This replaces flash with a nice friendly button to allow one to
download and start the flash _if required_. Since installing this gem
I have found it far more "popular" to me than any amount of flash
advertising on a page. If I really really need to look at the flash,
and it is obviously "content", I still easily can.
Neredbojias said:and the morons and a-holes who
design these "flashy"-type sites and "hidden" systems seem totally
incapable of grasping the concept that this is the prevailing attitude.
rf said:Well, I finally got cranky with it and started googling. Found flashblock:
http://flashblock.mozdev.org/
This replaces flash with a nice friendly button to allow one to download and
start the flash _if required_. Since installing this gem I have found it far
more "popular" to me than any amount of flash advertising on a page. If I
really really need to look at the flash, and it is obviously "content", I
still easily can.
Strong words, Boji. I thought you were almost going to say
schmucks...
Now what was that plugin that my browser (Safari) did not wait to
tell me I had to get if I was not going to "miss out on some of
the content" on your own website?
The nucleus of your story is not only what's wrong with Flash, but several
other things as well, including stuff like Active-X. It boils down to lack
of user-control. I don't want anything on my computer that I can't control
(-yes, one has to put up with some things), and the morons and a-holes who
design these "flashy"-type sites and "hidden" systems seem totally
incapable of grasping the concept that this is the prevailing attitude.
Travis Newbury said:Or we grasp it, but we just don't care because we found that losing
people with a thought process like yours (not saying it is wrong) have
fewer consequences than losing the business of people they are
designing the site for.
Bottom line it is all a numbers game. What works best for one site,
may not work at all for another.
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