This is a bug right?

Discussion in 'HTML' started by Samuël van Laere, Jun 26, 2003.

  1. Samuël van Laere, Jun 26, 2003
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    brucie Guest

    brucie, Jun 26, 2003
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  3. "brucie" <> schreef in bericht
    news:bdft2e$sb2c3$...
    > In post <TDKKa.412054$>
    > Samuël van Laere said...
    >
    > > Just to be sure it isn't my fault:
    > > http://www.fortron.net/bug.htm
    > >
    > > This is a bug right?

    >
    > what is a bug?
    >
    > --
    > brucie a. blackford. 27/June/2003 08:46:37 am kilo.
    > http://loser.brucies.com/


    Yeah i must be wrong, its a feature...really ;)
    Bugs must be some group of insects,
    there are more bugs then features anyhow.


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    Samuël van Laere, Jun 26, 2003
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    brucie Guest

    In post <TDKKa.412054$>
    Samuël van Laere said...

    > Just to be sure it isn't my fault:
    > http://www.fortron.net/bug.htm
    >
    > This is a bug right?


    don't worry about it. if people are stupid enough to use IE they get
    what they deserve.

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    brucie, Jun 26, 2003
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    Mark Parnell Guest

    brucie wrote:
    > In post <TDKKa.412054$>
    > Samuël van Laere said...
    >
    >> Just to be sure it isn't my fault:
    >> http://www.fortron.net/bug.htm
    >>
    >> This is a bug right?

    >
    > what is a bug?


    No - it is a "bug right". The bugs have the right to claim that it is
    Samuel's fault.

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    http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
     
    Mark Parnell, Jun 27, 2003
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  6. "Mark Parnell" <> schreef in bericht
    news:3efb86a5$0$...
    > brucie wrote:
    > > In post <TDKKa.412054$>
    > > Samuël van Laere said...
    > >
    > >> Just to be sure it isn't my fault:
    > >> http://www.fortron.net/bug.htm
    > >>
    > >> This is a bug right?

    > >
    > > what is a bug?

    >
    > No - it is a "bug right". The bugs have the right to claim that it is
    > Samuel's fault.
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mark Parnell
    > http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
    >
    >


    <g>
    Well while we are writting about bugs,
    this seems another one: (offcourse in IE only)
    http://www.fortron.net/kontakt.htm
    Write some text in textarea field and notice
    how the textarea field's width changes a little.
    I was able to reduce this a lot, but this is the best i can do.
    Don't know if i should cry or laugh about yet another bug..
    that is: unless all the other browsers are wrong and it should alter the
    width as IE does :)

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    With regards,
    Samuël van Laere
    the Netherlands
    www.fortron.net
     
    Samuël van Laere, Jun 27, 2003
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    Mark Parnell Guest

    Samuël van Laere wrote:
    > Well while we are writting about bugs,
    > this seems another one: (offcourse in IE only)
    > http://www.fortron.net/kontakt.htm
    > Write some text in textarea field and notice
    > how the textarea field's width changes a little.
    > I was able to reduce this a lot, but this is the best i can do.
    > Don't know if i should cry or laugh about yet another bug..
    > that is: unless all the other browsers are wrong and it should alter
    > the width as IE does :)


    I don't see that (IE6, Win 2k)

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    http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
     
    Mark Parnell, Jun 27, 2003
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    rf Guest

    rf, Jun 27, 2003
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  9. "Mark Parnell" <> schreef in bericht
    news:3efb9c2c$0$...
    > Samuël van Laere wrote:
    > > Well while we are writting about bugs,
    > > this seems another one: (offcourse in IE only)
    > > http://www.fortron.net/kontakt.htm
    > > Write some text in textarea field and notice
    > > how the textarea field's width changes a little.
    > > I was able to reduce this a lot, but this is the best i can do.
    > > Don't know if i should cry or laugh about yet another bug..
    > > that is: unless all the other browsers are wrong and it should alter
    > > the width as IE does :)

    >
    > I don't see that (IE6, Win 2k)
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mark Parnell
    > http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
    >
    >


    I asumed it wouldn't work on IE6 either,
    but i asumed wrong.
    I tested it with IE 5.0 SP2, so far this is the only browser
    that changes the width of the textarea.



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    With regards,
    Samuël van Laere
    the Netherlands
    www.fortron.net
     
    Samuël van Laere, Jun 27, 2003
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  10. brucie wrote:
    > In post <TDKKa.412054$>
    > Samuël van Laere said...
    >
    >
    >>Just to be sure it isn't my fault:
    >>http://www.fortron.net/bug.htm
    >>
    >>This is a bug right?

    >
    >
    > don't worry about it. if people are stupid enough to use IE they get
    > what they deserve.



    The vast majority of web surfers use Microsoft's IE, and they are not
    necessarily stupid. Many just don't know much about computers or
    software. Just like there are many people out there driving cars who
    know nothing about how they are made or being repaired.
    --
    Nicolai Zwar
     
    Nicolai P. Zwar, Jun 27, 2003
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    Headless Guest

    "Nicolai P. Zwar" <> wrote:

    >> don't worry about it. if people are stupid enough to use IE they get
    >> what they deserve.

    >
    >The vast majority of web surfers use Microsoft's IE, and they are not
    >necessarily stupid. Many just don't know much about computers or
    >software. Just like there are many people out there driving cars who
    >know nothing about how they are made or being repaired.


    That doesn't mean that authors should lower their standards to match IE.

    Author to high standards and accept the cosmetic quirks that low grade
    products like IE exhibit.


    Headless
     
    Headless, Jun 27, 2003
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    SwissCheese Guest

    The width changed about a characters width on my system:

    WinXP Pro
    IE Ver 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp1.020828-1920

    ....was OK in Opera 7


    "Mark Parnell" <> wrote in message
    news:3efb9c2c$0$...
    > Samuël van Laere wrote:
    > > Well while we are writting about bugs,
    > > this seems another one: (offcourse in IE only)
    > > http://www.fortron.net/kontakt.htm
    > > Write some text in textarea field and notice
    > > how the textarea field's width changes a little.
    > > I was able to reduce this a lot, but this is the best i can do.
    > > Don't know if i should cry or laugh about yet another bug..
    > > that is: unless all the other browsers are wrong and it should alter
    > > the width as IE does :)

    >
    > I don't see that (IE6, Win 2k)
    >
    > --
    >
    > Mark Parnell
    > http://www.clarkecomputers.com.au
    >
    >
    >
     
    SwissCheese, Jun 28, 2003
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  13. "SwissCheese" <> schreef in bericht
    news:Q9eLa.199563$...
    > The width changed about a characters width on my system:
    >
    > WinXP Pro
    > IE Ver 6.0.2800.1106.xpsp1.020828-1920
    >
    > ...was OK in Opera 7
    >


    I wouldn't know how to fix this.
    Opera indeed works fine, and so does Mozilla en Netscape.
    I can live with it tough, but if someone know a way to fix this
    then i'll beglad to hear about it.


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    With regards,
    Samuël van Laere
    the Netherlands
    www.fortron.net
     
    Samuël van Laere, Jun 28, 2003
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    SwissCheese Guest

    Samuël,
    Try this instead:

    <form method="POST" action=""> /* move class from here */
    <p class="formElement"> /* to here */
    <label for="name">Naam:<br>
    <input name="Name" id="name">
    </label>
    <br>
    <label for="Email">E-mail:<br>
    <input name="email" id="Email">
    <br>
    </label>
    <label for="comments">Schrijf hier je bericht:<br>
    <textarea name="comments" cols="30" rows="10" id="comments"
    class="formElement"></textarea>
    <br>
    <input type="submit" value="Verzenden">
    </label>
    </p>
    </form>

    Seems to work here...

    SwissCheese

    "Samuël van Laere" <> wrote in message
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    > "SwissCheese" <> schreef in bericht
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    > > I saved your html into my server and it worked fine (in IE6)...

    > obviously
    > > I have no access to your @import "style.css" so start looking there

    > probably
    > > in the class="formElement" area...

    >
    > You should be able to download the css file:
    > http://www.fortron.net/style.css
    >
    > I have not figured it out yet, i've tested it with IE5.5
    > there isn't a whole lot in the formElement class:
    >
    > .formElement
    > {
    > width : 80%;
    > }
    >
    > --
    > With regards,
    > Samuël van Laere
    > the Netherlands
    > www.fortron.net
    >
    >
    >
     
    SwissCheese, Jun 29, 2003
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  15. "SwissCheese" <> schreef in bericht
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    > Samuël,
    > Try this instead:
    >
    > <form method="POST" action=""> /* move class from here */
    > <p class="formElement"> /* to here */
    > <label for="name">Naam:<br>
    > <input name="Name" id="name">
    > </label>
    > <br>
    > <label for="Email">E-mail:<br>
    > <input name="email" id="Email">
    > <br>
    > </label>
    > <label for="comments">Schrijf hier je bericht:<br>
    > <textarea name="comments" cols="30" rows="10" id="comments"
    > class="formElement"></textarea>
    > <br>
    > <input type="submit" value="Verzenden">
    > </label>
    > </p>
    > </form>
    >
    > Seems to work here...
    >
    > SwissCheese
    >
    > "Samuël van Laere" <> wrote in message
    > news:pQrLa.457834$...
    > > "SwissCheese" <> schreef in bericht
    > > news:4NoLa.158022$...
    > > > I saved your html into my server and it worked fine (in IE6)...

    > > obviously
    > > > I have no access to your @import "style.css" so start looking there

    > > probably
    > > > in the class="formElement" area...

    > >
    > > You should be able to download the css file:
    > > http://www.fortron.net/style.css
    > >
    > > I have not figured it out yet, i've tested it with IE5.5
    > > there isn't a whole lot in the formElement class:
    > >
    > > .formElement
    > > {
    > > width : 80%;
    > > }
    > >
    > > --
    > > With regards,
    > > Samuël van Laere
    > > the Netherlands
    > > www.fortron.net
    > >



    Thanks a lot for your efforts Swiss,

    It now works, i probally wouldn't have found myself !
    And its amazing easy to do :)

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    Samuël van Laere
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    www.fortron.net
     
    Samuël van Laere, Jun 29, 2003
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