Transparency

[jafar]

Hi.
I've made some buttons in The Gimp using transparency and saved as .png's.
The problem is that in every browser except IE the transparency works
fine. In IE the buttons have a white background instead. Is there any way
around this?
Here's a link to a page that doesn't use bgsound for those that hate it
http://moonlife-records.com/samples.html
Take a look and help me if you can.
Cheers!

 

[Animesh Kumar]

Hi.
I've made some buttons in The Gimp using transparency and saved as .png's.
The problem is that in every browser except IE the transparency works
fine. In IE the buttons have a white background instead. Is there any way
around this?
Here's a link to a page that doesn't use bgsound for those that hate it
http://moonlife-records.com/samples.html
Take a look and help me if you can.
Cheers!

Use GIF. GIF works fine in all browsers. I learnt recently that
transparent PNGs are not handled nicely by IE (and indeed I observed
this as well).

Best
A

 

[dorayme]

http://moonlife-records.com/samples.html

Your little browser detection gif is amusing. Nice one. Just a suggestion:
make it play just once and not loop... the joke won't be any more
transparent by repetition - there, that brings this remark more onto your
topic...

dorayme

 

[Mark Parnell]

I've made some buttons in The Gimp using transparency and saved as .png's.
The problem is that in every browser except IE the transparency works
fine. In IE the buttons have a white background instead. Is there any way
around this?

IE doesn't support alpha transparency in PNGs. There is an MS "filter"
for it, although it means your pages won't validate.

http://tinyurl.com/7c89g
http://www.msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/filter/reference/filters/alphaimageloader.asp

 

[Leif K-Brooks]

Use GIF. GIF works fine in all browsers. I learnt recently that
transparent PNGs are not handled nicely by IE (and indeed I observed
this as well).

Binary PNG transparency works just fine in IE. It's just translucency, a
feature that GIF doesn't have, that doesn't work right in IE.

 

[Animesh Kumar]

Binary PNG transparency works just fine in IE. It's just translucency, a
feature that GIF doesn't have, that doesn't work right in IE.

Interesting. I had some problems with transparency in a png file as
well. I made background transparent with GIMP if that is an issue.

Best
A

 

[windandwaves]

Hi.
I've made some buttons in The Gimp using transparency and saved as
.png's.

I only ever use GIFS and JPEGS in any of my sites because

a. they are usually smaller than PNGs
b. they are supported by all browsers

Use Gifs when you have images that need to be clearcut and have limited
number of colours (i.e. writing, words, letters, buttons, borders,
background-colors, etc...) and use JPEG for any photographic type material
(lots of colours).

I am sure you know this, but just in case you wondered, that is what works
best for me.

Images are the most important items (apart from music, videos, etc...) in
terms of size, so you can save a lot by paying close attention to choosing
the right image. In general, I found PNGs to be larger than GIFs or JPEGs.

Cheers

- Nicolaas

 

[Mark Parnell]

I only ever use GIFS and JPEGS in any of my sites because

a. they are usually smaller than PNGs

Examples? I'm sure someone here can manage to get your GIFs (and
possibly some JPEGs) smaller by making them PNGs, without any loss of
quality.

b. they are supported by all browsers

So are PNGs, except for alpha transparency, which isn't even possible in
GIFs or JPEGs. So this point is moot.

In general, I found PNGs to be larger than GIFs or JPEGs.

In most cases that means either your image editor isn't very good at
compressing PNGs, or you're not selecting the right options.

 

[jafar]

Thanks for your replies. I guess IE isn't standard enough?
Is it a good idea to offer the MS patch on my homepage?

 

[jafar]

Oops. Just looked at Mark's link. It's something I actually have to put in
my page. I think I'll just leave it so my page is standard and wait for MS
to fix it.

 

[Dirk]

I've made some buttons in The Gimp using transparency and saved as .png's.
The problem is that in every browser except IE the transparency works
fine. In IE the buttons have a white background instead. Is there any way
around this?

Reduce the number of colors! IE only can handle 8bit transparent gifs. I
think your png's have 24bit depth.

Dirk

 

[Neredbojias]

With neither quill nor qualm, windandwaves quothed

I only ever use GIFS and JPEGS in any of my sites because

a. they are usually smaller than PNGs
b. they are supported by all browsers

Also, girls might think it's an abbreviation for pregnant.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

With neither quill nor qualm, windandwaves quothed

Also, girls might think it's an abbreviation for pregnant.

It would be a pretty poor abbreviation, since there's no "n" between
the "p" and the "g" in "pregnant.

 

[Dennis]

With neither quill nor qualm, windandwaves quothed

Also, girls might think it's an abbreviation for pregnant.

It would be a pretty poor abbreviation, since there's no "n" between
the "p" and the "g" in "pregnant.
[/QUOTE]
Obviously with a name like Neredbojias he can just stick in any letter any
place he wants.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

It would be a pretty poor abbreviation, since there's no "n" between
the "p" and the "g" in "pregnant.

[/QUOTE]

Obviously with a name like Neredbojias he can just stick in any letter any
place he wants.

I withdraw my comment.

 

[Dennis]

On 24 Jun 2005 Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.html

I withdraw my comment.

Ok. The Nerd... is a interesting guy to have around in spite of his name. Now
if brucie would reapear.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On 24 Jun 2005 Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.html

But, it gets better...

Ok. The Nerd... is a interesting guy to have around in spite of his name. Now
if brucie would reapear.

^^^^^^^

Hah! *You* don't get to just make up words.

 

[Dennis]

On 25 Jun 2005 Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.html

^^^^^^^

Hah! *You* don't get to just make up words.

Hah! just did.

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On 25 Jun 2005 Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.html

Hah! just did.

Where?

 

[Blinky the Shark]

On 25 Jun 2005 Blinky the Shark wrote in alt.html

Hah! just did.

Second Response: Ignore first response; I misread your reply, despite
it only being three words long.