Updates to the ccl

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  1. jacob navia

    jacob navia Guest

    Hi
    I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    container, and updated the documentation.
     
    jacob navia, Jun 7, 2012
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    Joe. Guest

    "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    > Hi
    > I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    > container, and updated the documentation.


    So what?

    "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 40,
    they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they realize
    that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
    - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)
     
    Joe., Jun 8, 2012
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  3. In article <jqs4j2$653$>, Joe. <> wrote:
    >
    >"jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    >news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >> Hi
    >> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >> container, and updated the documentation.

    >
    >So what?
    >
    >"When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 40,
    >they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they realize
    >that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
    > - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)


    Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
    televangelists as sources of wisdom?

    --
    Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is
    no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

    - John Kenneth Galbraith -
     
    Kenny McCormack, Jun 8, 2012
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  4. jacob navia

    jacob navia Guest

    Le 08/06/12 09:50, Kenny McCormack a écrit :
    > In article<jqs4j2$653$>, Joe.<> wrote:
    >>
    >> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
    >> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>> Hi
    >>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>> container, and updated the documentation.

    >>
    >> So what?
    >>
    >> "When one is 20, they worry what people think about them. When they are 40,
    >> they don't care what people think about them. When they are 60, they realize
    >> that no on has ever even been thinking about them (!)".
    >> - Joel Osteen (paraphrased)

    >
    > Why am I not surprised to see the religious whackos of CLC quoting whacko
    > televangelists as sources of wisdom?
    >


    And, as usual, I am the object of their "well intentioned" messages.
     
    jacob navia, Jun 8, 2012
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  5. jacob navia

    BruceS Guest

    On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe." <> wrote:
    > "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    >
    > news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >
    > > Hi
    > > I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    > > container, and updated the documentation.

    >
    > So what?


    So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    update?
     
    BruceS, Jun 8, 2012
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  6. jacob navia

    James Kuyper Guest

    On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
    > On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe." <> wrote:
    >> "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    >>
    >> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>
    >>> Hi
    >>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>> container, and updated the documentation.

    >>
    >> So what?

    >
    > So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    > it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    > update?


    No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    own compiler. No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
    versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.

    I'll grant you, there's some other spammers who also use this newsgroup
    for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
    an unmoderated newsgroup, so there's not much that can be done about it.
     
    James Kuyper, Jun 8, 2012
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  7. jacob navia

    BartC Guest

    "James Kuyper" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:


    >> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >> update?

    >
    > No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    > than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    > own compiler.


    The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.

    > No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
    > versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.


    Perhaps because it isn't a very good medium for advertising.

    --
    Bartc
     
    BartC, Jun 8, 2012
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  8. jacob navia

    jacob navia Guest

    Le 08/06/12 20:26, James Kuyper a écrit :
    > On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
    >> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<> wrote:
    >>> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>>
    >>>> Hi
    >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
    >>>
    >>> So what?

    >>
    >> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >> update?

    >
    > No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    > than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    > own compiler. No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
    > versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.
    >


    In those sentences Mr Kuyper says two falsehoods:

    1) The containers library would be specific to my compiler. Even if he
    knows perfectly well from the discussion of this last years he will
    start repeating that again and again.

    2) "No other vendor" implies that I am a shrewd businessman trying to
    sell something here even if he knows perfectly well that I am
    distributing the whole code base for free without any strings
    attached. I have repeated this again and again for years, but Mr
    Kuyper insists in disseminating falsehoods again and again.

    > I'll grant you, there's some other spammers who also use this newsgroup
    > for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
    > an unmoderated newsgroup, so there's not much that can be done about it.


    When I speak about a project to add a containers library to the C
    language I am a spammer because in this group the only allowed
    compiler is gcc, maybe Microsoft but then people are redirected
    immediately to some long dead windows group.
     
    jacob navia, Jun 8, 2012
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  9. jacob navia

    Ian Collins Guest

    On 06/ 9/12 06:26 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
    > On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
    >> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<> wrote:
    >>> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>>
    >>>> Hi
    >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
    >>>
    >>> So what?

    >>
    >> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >> update?

    >
    > No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    > than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    > own compiler.


    I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this
    library. So what's wrong with posting updates here? Do you prefer
    reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?

    --
    Ian Collins
     
    Ian Collins, Jun 8, 2012
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  10. In article <>,
    Ian Collins <> wrote:
    ....
    >I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this
    >library. So what's wrong with posting updates here? Do you prefer
    >reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?


    Short answer: Yes.

    (That is what they - folks like Kiper and Tompson - live for)

    (Whatever floats your boat - as they say...)

    --
    Religion is regarded by the common people as true,
    by the wise as foolish,
    and by the rulers as useful.

    (Seneca the Younger, 65 AD)
     
    Kenny McCormack, Jun 9, 2012
    #10
  11. In article <jqtn8o$d46$>,
    jacob navia <> wrote:
    ....
    >When I speak about a project to add a containers library to the C
    >language I am a spammer because in this group the only allowed
    >compiler is gcc, maybe Microsoft but then people are redirected
    >immediately to some long dead windows group.


    Welcome to CLC. We hope you enjoy your stay.

    --
    A liberal, a moderate, and a conservative walk into a bar...

    Bartender says, "Hi, Mitt!"
     
    Kenny McCormack, Jun 9, 2012
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  12. jacob navia

    Noob Guest

    BruceS wrote:

    > So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?


    And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
    and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.
     
    Noob, Jun 10, 2012
    #12
  13. In article <4fd4cef1$0$2052$>,
    Noob <root@localhost> wrote:
    >BruceS wrote:
    >
    >> So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?

    >
    >And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
    >and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.


    Don't worry. We think (and say) the same about you.

    --
    "We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
    white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."

    - Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order -
     
    Kenny McCormack, Jun 10, 2012
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  14. jacob navia

    jacob navia Guest

    Le 10/06/12 19:07, Kenny McCormack a écrit :
    > In article<4fd4cef1$0$2052$>,
    > Noob<root@localhost> wrote:
    >> BruceS wrote:
    >>
    >>> So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?

    >>
    >> And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
    >> and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.

    >
    > Don't worry. We think (and say) the same about you.
    >


    Noob is always insulting me, principally because I am not using gcc, as
    he has said repeatedly in his messages.

    The line is the same as Kuyper's:

    "the 99.999% who don't (use his wares)", etc. I am selling something
    even if the ccl has less strings attached than gnu stuff!
     
    jacob navia, Jun 10, 2012
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  15. jacob navia

    Joe. Guest

    "James Kuyper" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
    >> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe." <> wrote:
    >>> "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    >>>
    >>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>>
    >>>> Hi
    >>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>>> container, and updated the documentation.
    >>>
    >>> So what?

    >>
    >> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >> update?

    >
    > No,


    ??

    Than you know his motives? Do tell.

    > the hard part is figuring out why


    Ah, so YOU were just spouting and do not know. Yes? What you seem to have
    said is that you wonder about his motive(s).

    > he uses this newsgroup


    That is a fact.

    > rather


    That is not a fact, for you do not know his motive(s). (Or 'motivations').

    > than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    > own compiler.


    I thought it was a PCC fork.

    > No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
    > versions,


    Which gives rise to questions about his behavior. He may be asking for help.
    He may have lost all hope and is ensuring that you wished you would have
    helped him. Lot's of possibilities. So much bullshit in "the world", it's
    hard to tell. Yeah right, and a black president will "change things for the
    better". Did Streisand say that? What was she thinking?(!). To her I say: if
    you are looking for a leader, you are looking too far away.

    > which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.


    Explain.

    >
    > I'll grant you


    How much? What are the terms? I've looked at the terms of "government
    grants", and they look like "support the killing machine", so grants seem
    not to be an option for my efforts. Today I skimmed the story that
    "revealed" where the tax dollars go (as if I didn't know). Did anyone else
    see that text?

    >, there's some other spammers


    I'm not a lawyer, but did you just call him a 'spammer'? Is that defamation
    of character? (I am curious to know). Apparently the "education system"
    where you live is not preparing you for the "real world", AFAIK.

    > who also use this =newsgroup
    > for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
    > an unmoderated newsgroup, so


    > there's not much that can be done about it.


    ?
     
    Joe., Jun 17, 2012
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  16. jacob navia

    Joe. Guest

    "BartC" <> wrote in message news:jqtj6u$aa7$...
    > "James Kuyper" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:

    >
    >>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >>> update?

    >>
    >> No, the hard part is figing out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    >> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    >> own compiler.

    >
    > The 'CCL' library is not specific to lcc-win.


    What is "The 'CCL' library" in your mind Bart?

    >
    >> No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
    >> versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.

    >
    > Perhaps because it isn't a very good medium for advertising.


    Did you have a point with that statement?
     
    Joe., Jun 17, 2012
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  17. jacob navia

    Joe. Guest

    "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    news:jqtn8o$d46$...
    > Le 08/06/12 20:26, James Kuyper a écrit :
    >> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
    >>> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<> wrote:
    >>>> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
    >>>>
    >>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hi
    >>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
    >>>>
    >>>> So what?
    >>>
    >>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >>> update?

    >>
    >> No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    >> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    >> own compiler. No other vendor uses this newsgroup to announce new
    >> versions, which might give you a hint about the propriety of doing so.
    >>

    >
    > In those sentences Mr Kuyper says two falsehoods:
    >
    > 1) The containers library


    You mean like "The god"? Are you trying to "divulge" the tactics of
    snake-oil salemen and false prophets?

    > would be specific to my compiler.


    "your" compiler? Hmm. A PCC-derivative is now "your compiler"?

    > Even if he
    > knows perfectly well from the discussion of this last years he will
    > start repeating that again and again.
    >


    Oh yeah, the sheeple are going to buy your "wares" after an outburst like
    that. Hello.

    > 2) "No other vendor" implies that I am a shrewd businessman trying to
    > sell something here even if he knows perfectly well that I am
    > distributing the whole code base for free without any strings
    > attached. I have repeated this again and again for years, but Mr
    > Kuyper insists in disseminating falsehoods again and again.
    >
    >> I'll grant you, there's some other spammers who also use this newsgroup
    >> for announcements of many different kinds that unrelated to C, but it's
    >> an unmoderated newsgroup, so there's not much that can be done about it.

    >
    > When I speak about a project to add a containers library to the C
    > language I am a spammer because in this group the only allowed
    > compiler is gcc, maybe Microsoft but then people are redirected
    > immediately to some long dead windows group.
    >


    I render your "assumption" false, just by posting.
     
    Joe., Jun 17, 2012
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  18. jacob navia

    Joe. Guest

    "Ian Collins" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > On 06/ 9/12 06:26 AM, James Kuyper wrote:
    >> On 06/08/2012 02:05 PM, BruceS wrote:
    >>> On Jun 8, 12:08 am, "Joe."<> wrote:
    >>>> "jacob navia"<> wrote in message
    >>>>
    >>>> news:jqqfub$7o2$...
    >>>>
    >>>>> Hi
    >>>>> I have uploaded a new "templated" version of the double linked list
    >>>>> container, and updated the documentation.
    >>>>
    >>>> So what?
    >>>
    >>> So...any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest? Is
    >>> it really that hard to understand why he lets people know he has an
    >>> update?

    >>
    >> No, the hard part is figuring out why he uses this newsgroup rather
    >> than, for instance, the lcc newsgroup for announcements specific to his
    >> own compiler.

    >
    > I don't use lcc, but I am interested in the work he is doing with this
    > library. So what's wrong with posting updates here? Do you prefer
    > reading yet more contrived examples of undefined behaviour?


    I know what is wrong with it.
     
    Joe., Jun 17, 2012
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  19. jacob navia

    Joe. Guest

    "Noob" <root@localhost> wrote in message
    news:4fd4cef1$0$2052$...
    > BruceS wrote:
    >
    >> So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?

    >
    > And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
    > and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.


    I think that is the way most people think and act ("in my EXPERIENCE"): . I
    do not understand such behavior. There are other behaviors I don't
    understand.

    Did you just say that the world revolves around you?
     
    Joe., Jun 17, 2012
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  20. jacob navia

    Joe. Guest

    "jacob navia" <> wrote in message
    news:jr2u04$ih9$...
    > Le 10/06/12 19:07, Kenny McCormack a écrit :
    >> In article<4fd4cef1$0$2052$>,
    >> Noob<root@localhost> wrote:
    >>> BruceS wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> So... any C programmers who use his stuff can now get the latest?
    >>>
    >>> And the 99.999% who don't (use his wares) DO NOT GIVE a rat's ass,
    >>> and wish the OP would C&D his excessive and obnoxious self-promotion.

    >>
    >> Don't worry. We think (and say) the same about you.
    >>

    >
    > Noob is always insulting me,


    Take a multi-vitamin, multi-mineral "thing" and a fish-oil capsule each day
    during a well-balanced meal each day for 30 days. Continue that program if
    it works.

    > principally


    Ah, principles. Next will be "humanities" and "ethics" courses at your local
    "community" college. As you are "so smart" and "up on principles", do tell
    me, are "property taxes" rape? Are "property taxes" a crime against
    humanity? How are property taxes not like rape?

    > because I am not using gcc, as
    > he has said repeatedly in his messages.
    >
    > The line is the same as Kuyper's:
    >
    > "the 99.999% who don't (use his wares)", etc. I am selling something
    > even if the ccl has less strings attached than gnu stuff!
    >
     
    Joe., Jun 17, 2012
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