updating a website w/ no html knowledge

[oo-]

hi
I maintain a website for a charity. The site was designed using fireworks
and dreamweaver MX so lots javascript and images for text - crap basically
(and not my design) however I only do this as a favour and to put on my cv
and the charity woudl like their receptionist to do maintain it in the
future.

the problems

I'd like to conver it to pure xhtml & css (tables for tabular data only) but
this poses a problem if they have only DW MX and not 2004 as the layout it
shows is crappy. a CMS is not really an option neither is an upgrade to MX
2004 cos of the expense. What is a viable option to allow them to update
their site themselves - preferrably after i've converted it from tables
layout to css-p. Is frontpage 2003 a viable option yet? DWMX 2004 still
renders CSS-P pretty poorly imho and I was wondering how well frontpage does
it? Obviously the pages would be templated and the receptionist has word
processing skills so could learn DW or frontpage in a day easily.

any ideas?

Phil

 

[Long - CM web hosting]

: hi
: I maintain a website for a charity. The site was designed using fireworks
: and dreamweaver MX so lots javascript and images for text - crap basically
: (and not my design) however I only do this as a favour and to put on my cv
: and the charity woudl like their receptionist to do maintain it in the
: future.
:
: the problems
:
: I'd like to conver it to pure xhtml & css (tables for tabular data only) but
: this poses a problem if they have only DW MX and not 2004 as the layout it
: shows is crappy. a CMS is not really an option neither is an upgrade to MX
: 2004 cos of the expense. What is a viable option to allow them to update
: their site themselves - preferrably after i've converted it from tables
: layout to css-p. Is frontpage 2003 a viable option yet? DWMX 2004 still
: renders CSS-P pretty poorly imho and I was wondering how well frontpage does
: it? Obviously the pages would be templated and the receptionist has word
: processing skills so could learn DW or frontpage in a day easily.
:
: any ideas?
:
Phil,

If hosting their own CMS is not an option, perhaps a cost effective hosted
CMS solution would meet their need. You would be able to create page
templates and push specific content to separate files, for the receptionist to
update. The person can then use whatever to create/update content for
the assigned files.

The page templates are processed dynamically, in response to HTTP
requests. This means updated content are available immediately without
additional work.

If you would like more info, contact our office through our website.

Regards,

Long
www.webcharm.ca - Integrated content management web hosting

 

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven named Long - CM web hosting:

If hosting their own CMS is not an option, perhaps a cost effective
hosted CMS solution would meet their need.

If they can't afford DreamWeaver, why would they want to pay a minimum
of $24.95 per month (plus setup fee). Your 'add-on' features are quite
expensive as well.

I still don't see any prominent info at your site that clearly states
your 'CMS' is your own proprietary system, and not available at
regular web hosting companies.

You continue to offer WebCharm as a solution to many questions, and
since it is your product, we can only conclude your responses in these
newsgroups are spam.

 

[Whitecrest]

I maintain a website for a charity. The site was designed using fireworks
and dreamweaver MX so lots javascript and images for text - crap basically
(and not my design) however I only do this as a favour....

It's not for me... uh... it for a friend....

I'd like to conver it to pure xhtml & css (tables for tabular data only) but
this poses a problem if they have only DW MX and not 2004 as the layout it
shows is crappy...

Don't use the layout, use preview instead. If you are redoing their
site in XHTML and CSS, the only thing they will ever need to change is
the content. Dreamweaver MX will do that for them just fine.

 

[Hywel Jenkins]

hi
I maintain a website for a charity. The site was designed using fireworks
and dreamweaver MX so lots javascript and images for text - crap basically
(and not my design) however I only do this as a favour and to put on my cv
and the charity woudl like their receptionist to do maintain it in the
future.

the problems

I'd like to conver it to pure xhtml & css (tables for tabular data only) but
this poses a problem if they have only DW MX and not 2004 as the layout it
shows is crappy. a CMS is not really an option neither is an upgrade to MX
2004 cos of the expense. What is a viable option to allow them to update
their site themselves - preferrably after i've converted it from tables
layout to css-p. Is frontpage 2003 a viable option yet? DWMX 2004 still
renders CSS-P pretty poorly imho and I was wondering how well frontpage does
it? Obviously the pages would be templated and the receptionist has word
processing skills so could learn DW or frontpage in a day easily.

any ideas?

http://www.phpnuke.org/ perhaps. I haven't used it, but it looks the
business.

 

[Sid Ismail]

: and the charity woudl like their receptionist to do maintain it in the
: future.


If the receptionist is pretty, smart, 25-34, 36-24-36 thereabouts,
unattached, a 2-door sports car and has blue eyes, I'll show her how to do
it. Send photo of sports car.

Sid

 

[oo-]

http://www.phpnuke.org/ perhaps. I haven't used it, but it looks the
business.

sorry i should have said its an asp server.

 

[oo-]

It's not for me... uh... it for a friend....


Don't use the layout, use preview instead. If you are redoing their
site in XHTML and CSS, the only thing they will ever need to change is
the content. Dreamweaver MX will do that for them just fine.

sorry... i meant preview. problem is dwmx 2004 displays css-p quite
horrendously.
i know they'll only have to change the contant but when the editable regions
in the template aren't displayed properly due to DW's poor css rendering
then they can't edit the pages can they?

 

[Whitecrest]

sorry... i meant preview. problem is dwmx 2004 displays css-p quite
horrendously.

Preview, is done with the browsers you have installed on your computer.
(Press F12 I think) If the preview is screwed up, it is your CSS.

i know they'll only have to change the contant but when the editable regions
in the template aren't displayed properly due to DW's poor css rendering
then they can't edit the pages can they?

Again, press F12 and it opens a browsers to view it.

 

[Hywel Jenkins]

sorry i should have said its an asp server.

Then install PHP on to it, or fully upgrade the server to Apache.

 

[oo-]

Preview, is done with the browsers you have installed on your computer.
(Press F12 I think) If the preview is screwed up, it is your CSS.

my css isn't screwed up.

Again, press F12 and it opens a browsers to view it.

yes i know. look i'll spell this out.
css-p = good.
dwmx 2004 rendering of css-p in its display mode as opposed to its code or
split view = poor.
therefore someone with no html knowledge can't very well edit a page if what
they see in design view isn't what they're gonna get in preview in a browser
mode.