Usability Job Opportunities

[RafaMinu]

[snip]
Since you are unable to contribute anything positive to the thread,
I'm going to add a few more links:
Job Opening for Web Accessibility QA
If you or someone you know has good experience and knowledge in Web
Accessibility, and wants a good job in California (Silicon Valley),
please contact me, Dennis, at webaxe at gmail dot com. The position is
in the QA department for a company that does a financial web
application.
http://webaxe.___________-qa.html
Open Posts
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility Engineer
European Research Consortium on Informatics and Mathematics (ERCIM)
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility and Ageing Consultant
http://www.w3.org/_________ecruitment/
Now, if you want to discuss these postings and/or contribute with
other links, please do so.
Otherwise stay off this thread and take your off-topic deviations
somewhere else.
Now you've just gone and got your fingers up in the air in rebellion like a
kid. "F*ck you I won't do what you tell me"

Up yours ¡¡¡

You did not start this discussion with usability issues. You started it
with SPAM.  Plain and simple.  And now you SPAM more.

You aren't going to find anyone to discuss SPAM with you.

And with that attitude, you won't find anyone to discuss ANYTHING with
you - unless it's another spammer.

It is your attitude the one that is spammish.
Please, stick to the topic at hand, that is, accesibility Job
Oportunities.
You still haven't written a word about that and it is kind of tiring
to read your repetitive spam-like gibberish nonsense.

 

[Jerry Stuckle]

I don't get it. Why was the original post spam? Are you saying that there
are no jobs available and that the 'quoted' text is the prime reason for the
post?

Let's say I post the following:

Freelance designers wanted with experience of

* CSS
* xhtml
* Photoshop
* php/MySQL

Redcat Media are a leading edge web design and development agency based in
Hampshire in nice offices with free parking and we're also very good at
search engine optimisation.

Is that spam? By putting such a blatant plug for my company as an example,
is that double spam?

Because ads are not wanted on a.w.w. It's in the FAQ's. That's what
a.w.w.a is for.

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[RafaMinu]

(e-mail address removed),




And he will continue to do so as long as he's getting attention.

You have to understand that an accessible web is good for all.

Keep in mind that organisations with web sites that are inaccessible
to people with disabilities risk being sued under the 1995 Disability
Discrimination Act.
In a recent survey of 1,000 web sites carried out by the Disability
Rights Commission (DRC), over 80 percent failed basic accessibility
tests, so it looks like most companies are in legal peril.

In essence, the law says that you may not discriminate against
disabled people by refusing to provide them with services that are
otherwise generally available.

I just wish your attention will focus on those issues.

 

[John Bokma]

Let's say I post the following:

Let's say that next time you do so on purpose I (and probably several
others) /will/ report it as spam. You're quite the hypocrite with your
(e-mail address removed).

In short: foad, thank you.

 

[RafaMinu]

I don't get it.  Why was the original post spam?  Are you saying that there
are no jobs available and that the 'quoted' text is the prime reason for the
post?

Let's say I post the following:

Freelance designers wanted with experience of

* CSS
* xhtml
* Photoshop
* php/MySQL

Redcat Media are a leading edge web design and development agency based in
Hampshire in nice offices with free parking and we're also very good at
search engine optimisation.

Is that spam?  By putting such a blatant plug for my company as an example,
is that double spam?

Well Andy, kind of ...
It would had not been had you mentioned that your site validates
correctly and that it is completely accessible, which incidentally
happens to be true.

 

[Jerry Stuckle]

[snip]
Since you are unable to contribute anything positive to the thread,
I'm going to add a few more links:
Job Opening for Web Accessibility QA
If you or someone you know has good experience and knowledge in Web
Accessibility, and wants a good job in California (Silicon Valley),
please contact me, Dennis, at webaxe at gmail dot com. The position is
in the QA department for a company that does a financial web
application.
http://webaxe.___________-qa.html
Open Posts
MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility Engineer
European Research Consortium on Informatics and Mathematics (ERCIM)
Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Web Accessibility and Ageing Consultant
http://www.w3.org/_________ecruitment/
Now, if you want to discuss these postings and/or contribute with
other links, please do so.
Otherwise stay off this thread and take your off-topic deviations
somewhere else.
Now you've just gone and got your fingers up in the air in rebellion like a
kid. "F*ck you I won't do what you tell me"
Up yours ¡¡¡

You did not start this discussion with usability issues. You started it
with SPAM. Plain and simple. And now you SPAM more.

You aren't going to find anyone to discuss SPAM with you.

And with that attitude, you won't find anyone to discuss ANYTHING with
you - unless it's another spammer.

It is your attitude the one that is spammish.
Please, stick to the topic at hand, that is, accesibility Job
Oportunities.
You still haven't written a word about that and it is kind of tiring
to read your repetitive spam-like gibberish nonsense.

The topic at hand is your SPAMMING. We are discussing it.

This is usenet. We'll discuss your SPAM any way we want.

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Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
(e-mail address removed)
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[Dick Gaughan]

In <C3A2D429.F13D%[email protected]> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008

I don't get it. Why was the original post spam?

It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
but it wasn't spam.

Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.

 

[Jerry Stuckle]

In <C3A2D429.F13D%[email protected]> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008


It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
but it wasn't spam.

Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.

The Breidbart Index is woefully out of date.

In a.w.w, ads of any kind are considered SPAM. Same with some of the
other groups he's posted to.

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Remove the "x" from my email address
Jerry Stuckle
JDS Computer Training Corp.
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[Andy Jacobs]

Let's say that next time you do so on purpose I (and probably several
others) /will/ report it as spam. You're quite the hypocrite with your
(e-mail address removed).

In short: foad, thank you.

Sorry, did I miss the news about you being made god of usenet?

I was asking a genuine question about a thread which seems to have got out
of hand. I post regularly and even my signature is concise and to the
point.

Now if you can't answer that question properly or conduct yourself with some
humility and civility you might want to foad yourself.

 

[Andy Jacobs]

In <C3A2D429.F13D%[email protected]> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008


It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
but it wasn't spam.

Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.

Blimey! I haven't heard BI used in an argument about SPAM since an ENORMOUS
thread in a freeserve web authoring group many years ago involving the
legendary Tony Morgan.

Those were the days!

 

[Scott Bryce]

Let's say I post the following:

Is that spam?

Usenet tradition says that job related posts only belong in groups set
up for that purpose. However one may define spam, help wanted posts are
off-topic in most newsgroups, including AWW.

 

[Bergamot]

I'm going to add a few more links:

Job Opening for Web Accessibility QA

You don't seem to get that these newsgroups aren't job boards.

take your off-topic deviations somewhere else.

Why not follow your own advice? If you aren't going to do anything more
than post job openings, take it somewhere else.

Did it ever occur to you that those who have the skills needed for these
types of positions already know where to look for jobs? That's assuming
they even need one. Most people in these groups aren't qualified for
those types of jobs either, even if they are usability or accessibility
advocates. I bet the companies involved wouldn't be thrilled to get a
flood of unqualified applicants resulting from your posts.

You're not doing them any favors, or us.

 

[Harlan Messinger]

Bearing in mind the MI5 spam, I do think people here are getting a bit
snotty about this. And even if no one else did , I found the link mildly
interesting enough to have a look, and it related to web design. Sure it
eneded up having little interest to me, but so what? Cant see why folks here
have to be so viscious to this guy, whoever he is or what ever his motive
for posting is.

Because this guy, instead of accepting being told, "This is activity
falls outside of the guidelines for use of these newsgroups," has no end
of excuses why the rules don't apply to him.

 

[Steve Sobol]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.www.webmaster.]

The Breidbart Index is woefully out of date.

Every "official"** definition of Usenet spam that I've seen involves
excessive crossposting or multiposting, and that's what the BI measures.
Out of date? Maybe the threshhold needs to be changed - but it's far from
useless.

In a.w.w, ads of any kind are considered SPAM. Same with some of the
other groups he's posted to.

Well, that's off-topicness. Being off-topic is generally a bad thing, but
I've not heard a definition for newsgroup spam that involves content, only
number of times posted. (This doesn't make off-topic posting OK, just not
necessarily spam.)

--S

**As official as anything can be on Usenet.

 

[Steve Sobol]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.www.webmaster.]

Because this guy, instead of accepting being told, "This is activity
falls outside of the guidelines for use of these newsgroups," has no end
of excuses why the rules don't apply to him.

....and updates his posts to get around filters.

He's an asshole, and if I was communicating directly with him I probably
wouldn't be very nice to him either.

 

[Red E. Kilowatt]

You have to understand that an accessible web is good for all.

Keep in mind that organisations with web sites that are inaccessible
to people with disabilities risk being sued under the 1995 Disability
Discrimination Act.
In a recent survey of 1,000 web sites carried out by the Disability
Rights Commission (DRC), over 80 percent failed basic accessibility
tests, so it looks like most companies are in legal peril.

In essence, the law says that you may not discriminate against
disabled people by refusing to provide them with services that are
otherwise generally available.

First of all, this is all old news and the particular law you cite
applies only to the UK.

In the US we have the ADA. And that specifies that one should make
"reasonable accommodation." That can vary quite a bit in interpretation,
or not be applicable at all, depending on the web site in question.

Of course here in the US, our government is a lot less inclined to do
social engineering by putting requirements on private businesses. And
that's the way most people here want it.

 

[Andy Jacobs]

Usenet tradition says that job related posts only belong in groups set
up for that purpose. However one may define spam, help wanted posts are
off-topic in most newsgroups, including AWW.

Ok, we're getting very hypothetical and almost a bit silly but what about:

**********************************

I agree

--
Andy
We're great and the best at web design and lots of hyperbole and
superlatives about what we do. Come and buy Viagra here as well and anything
to enlarge/shrink/manipulate any part of your anatomy - www.blah.co.uk

**********************************

 

[Scott Bryce]

Ok, we're getting very hypothetical and almost a bit silly but what
about:

**********************************

I agree

-- Andy We're great and the best at web design and lots of hyperbole
and superlatives about what we do. Come and buy Viagra here as well
and anything to enlarge/shrink/manipulate any part of your anatomy -
www.blah.co.uk

**********************************

A post that says nothing but "I agree" is bad netiquette. A sig that is
no more than 5 lines of no more than 80 characters each can say pretty
much whatever you want it to say. Plugging your site in your sig is
considered fair game. Making meaningless posts just so that your sig can
be posted may be thought of as spam.

 

[Andy Jacobs]

A post that says nothing but "I agree" is bad netiquette. A sig that is
no more than 5 lines of no more than 80 characters each can say pretty
much whatever you want it to say. Plugging your site in your sig is
considered fair game. Making meaningless posts just so that your sig can
be posted may be thought of as spam.

And therein lies the problem.

'may be thought of'

I agree with what you're saying 100% but it's a bit subjective.

 

[Neredbojias]

Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:17:30
GMT KarlCore scribed:

This betrays your complete lack of understanding about what usability
is.

Here here! Btw, do you have a brother named At The Earth's?