VCS hosting?

[Roedy Green]

I have create a collection of about 150 utilities, Applet, webstarts,
libraries etc. in in Java, Assembler, C and C++. I always include
source. Some of my stuff is shareware, but most freeware.

There are special deals for people like me who provide open source.
For example I have free copies of Jet and IntelliJ.

However, the IntelliJ people want me to host a version control public
server.

Is there a service that would accept me? Is there one that would do
it for a small fee?

Because of my shareware and because I am not interested in letting
anyone work on my code, and because my stuff is in multiple languages,
and because it is so many small projects I don't fit the profile of
what I have seen on places like SourceForge, and because of the
controversial and sexual subjects on my associated website, I suspect
I would have trouble getting accepted at the usual places.

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

I have create a collection of about 150 utilities, Applet, webstarts,
libraries etc. in in Java, Assembler, C and C++. I always include
source. Some of my stuff is shareware, but most freeware.

There are special deals for people like me who provide open source.
For example I have free copies of Jet and IntelliJ.

However, the IntelliJ people want me to host a version control public
server.

Because of my shareware and because I am not interested in letting
anyone work on my code, and because my stuff is in multiple languages,
and because it is so many small projects I don't fit the profile of
what I have seen on places like SourceForge,

You can not prevent people from working with the open source
part of your source code.

Arne

 

[Roedy Green]

You can not prevent people from working with the open source
part of your source code.

That's not what I meant. I don't want them messing with my master
copy. My projects are not collaborative. They are free do to with
they want with the code they take away, with the exception of my
non-military use restriction.

 

[Mark Space]

That's not what I meant. I don't want them messing with my master
copy. My projects are not collaborative. They are free do to with
they want with the code they take away, with the exception of my
non-military use restriction.

I'm not sure what you mean, either. But GPL does allow you to release
your code under its license, and still retain a copy (or many copies)
for yourself under what ever license you desire. Only the copy you
release is covered by GPL. You own copy is still 100% yours.

As far as "many small projects" I would just release it as a single
library with a bunch of small useful classes....

 

[Kenneth P. Turvey]

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:09:13 +0000, Roedy Green wrote:

[Snip]

Is there a service that would accept me? Is there one that would
do it for a small fee?

[Snip]

What version control system are you using. I used CVSDude a while back.
They support CVS and Subversion with plans to do Git the last time I
talked to them. They are commercial, but the fee isn't large.

If you have access to your own server then running a public repository
isn't difficult using any of these systems. Git is particularly easy to
set up.

 

[Roedy Green]

I'm not sure what you mean, either. But GPL does allow you to release
your code under its license, and still retain a copy (or many copies)
for yourself under what ever license you desire. Only the copy you
release is covered by GPL. You own copy is still 100% yours.

My licence is not GPL because I restrict use to non-military.
Other than that, I am pretty lax. I don't demand you give me credit, a
don't demand you open your source. I don't demand you give away your
code. I don't demand you use my code unmodified or provide it to
others.

 

[Sabine Dinis Blochberger]

I have create a collection of about 150 utilities, Applet, webstarts,
libraries etc. in in Java, Assembler, C and C++. I always include
source. Some of my stuff is shareware, but most freeware.

There are special deals for people like me who provide open source.
For example I have free copies of Jet and IntelliJ.

However, the IntelliJ people want me to host a version control public
server.

Can it be sourceforge?

Otherwise, you might have a chat with your webhoster to get you a vcs
server (like cvs or svn). Maybe there's some system that works based on
PHP and MySQL (which is the setup most webhosters have)...

Is there a service that would accept me? Is there one that would do
it for a small fee?

Because of my shareware and because I am not interested in letting
anyone work on my code, and because my stuff is in multiple languages,
and because it is so many small projects I don't fit the profile of
what I have seen on places like SourceForge, and because of the
controversial and sexual subjects on my associated website, I suspect
I would have trouble getting accepted at the usual places.

I also saw your concern with submissions getting in the way of your
code, vcs allow branching, so there would be your branch for example,
and a (or more) public branch...

 

[Roedy Green]

My licence is not GPL because I restrict use to non-military.
Other than that, I am pretty lax. I don't demand you give me credit, a
don't demand you open your source. I don't demand you give away your
code. I don't demand you use my code unmodified or provide it to
others.

I have applied at SourceForge. I am hopeless at decoding legal
documents. I could not decide if shareware violates their conditions
or if my non-military clause does. So I just applied and left it up to
them to reject me. I should get notice in three days.

 

[Sabine Dinis Blochberger]

I have applied at SourceForge. I am hopeless at decoding legal
documents. I could not decide if shareware violates their conditions
or if my non-military clause does. So I just applied and left it up to
them to reject me. I should get notice in three days.

Isn't that waht "lesser GPLs" are for? (rhethorical, I really don't
know).

And shareware is no hindrance on sourfeorge IIRC. Some projects are
"free" for personal use, but not commercial, so that should work.

 

[Owen Jacobson]

I have create a collection of about 150 utilities, Applet, webstarts,
libraries etc. in in Java, Assembler, C and C++.  I always include
source.  Some of my stuff is shareware, but most freeware.

There are special deals for people like me who provide open source.
For example I have free copies of Jet and IntelliJ.

However, the IntelliJ people want me to host a version control public
server.  

Is there a service that would accept me?  Is there one that would do
it for a small fee?

Because of my shareware and because I am not interested in letting
anyone work on my code, and because my stuff is in multiple languages,
and because it is so many small projects I don't fit the profile of
what I have seen on places like SourceForge, and because of the
controversial and sexual subjects on my associated website, I suspect
I would have trouble getting accepted at the usual places.

Have you looked at Google Code? The "project hosting" is pretty free-
form, with a subversion server set up for you with access control such
that you control who can commit to it. Also, it's free.

<http://code.google.com/>

-o

 

[Mark Space]

Isn't that waht "lesser GPLs" are for? (rhethorical, I really don't
know).

And shareware is no hindrance on sourfeorge IIRC. Some projects are
"free" for personal use, but not commercial, so that should work.

Neither of these are what Roedy is describing. Licenses are very
specific things. I think Sourceforge does allow any license as long as
it's "free" so the non-military use thing shouldn't bother them.

Aside for the restriction on non-military use, I think Roedy license is
"public domain."

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

Isn't that waht "lesser GPLs" are for? (rhethorical, I really don't
know).

No.

LGPL does not have the viral effect of GPL when linking, but
the rest is approx. the same.

Arne

 

[Roedy Green]

I have applied at SourceForge. I am hopeless at decoding legal
documents. I could not decide if shareware violates their conditions
or if my non-military clause does. So I just applied and left it up to
them to reject me. I should get notice in three days.

I have preemptively converted all my shareware to freeware.

They still make choke on the "non military use" clause because it
discriminates against serial murderers.

 

[Roedy Green]

Have you looked at Google Code? The "project hosting" is pretty free-
form, with a subversion server set up for you with access control such
that you control who can commit to it. Also, it's free.

that sounds good. I have been using WinCVS. The main thing I don't
like about it is a lack of atomic commit. Somebody can fetch code
while you are saving it, and they can get an incompatible set.

 

[Roedy Green]

Neither of these are what Roedy is describing. Licenses are very
specific things. I think Sourceforge does allow any license as long as
it's "free" so the non-military use thing shouldn't bother them.

Aside for the restriction on non-military use, I think Roedy license is
"public domain."

They turned me down. My restriction is unacceptable.