Visual Studio.NET 2005 Service Pack 1

[Guest]

Just poking fun, Juan.

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[Mark Rae]

Yup. It dawned on me that was the reason.


I don't know why Peter called our exchanges a "diatribe", though.

Me neither.

"Diatribe" means : "a thunderous verbal attack".
Neither of us was doing that, were we ?

I don't believe so...



Mr. Barnard: WHADDAYOU WANT?
Man: Well, I was told outside that...
Mr. Barnard: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT
DROPPINGS!
Man: What?
Mr. Barnard: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE REALLY MAKES
ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!
Man: Look, I came here for an argument! I'm not just going to stand
here...
Mr. Barnard: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!
Man: Oh I see! Well, that explains it...
Mr. Barnard: Aha! No, you want room 12A, just along the corridor.
Man: Oh...Thank you very much...Sorry...
Mr. Barnard: Not at all!
Man: Thank you. (Leaves)
Mr. Barnard: (under his breath) Stupid git.

 

[Juan T. Llibre]

I figured as much, Peter.

;-)

When two people go back as far as we do, it's easy
to figure out the intent in almost anything we write.

To others who don't know that, it might not be as easy.

That's why I sought an explanation : for their benefit.

 

[clintonG]

My instance of the installer has been running almost 24 hours. It doesn't
like any applications to be open notably IE so you might as well play guitar
for awhile and keep an eye on the progress in case you have to intervene.

I still can't download any of the Expression Suite applications [1] and
msdn2.microsoft.com is still FUBAR.

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[1] http://www.microsoft.com/products/expression/en/default.mspx

 

[Mark Rae]

My instance of the installer has been running almost 24 hours.

24 hours!!!!!????? I'm impressed that you managed to install VS.NET 2005 on
a 286... ;-)

That can't be normal, surely...!

Has it hung, perhaps?

Is the progress bar actually moving at all...?

How much processor time / memory is it using...?

 

[clintonG]

I kid you not and its still gathering required information...noting over
that period of time the installer paused to tell me I had to close certain
applications and then retry after which the progress bar picks right back up
as expected. This installer likes nothing running. Not IE, not WinAmp and I
closed down all tasktray apps except McAfee which will probably cause a
conflict sooner or later itself.

<%= Clinton Gallagher

 

[Mark Rae]

I kid you not and its still gathering required information...noting over
that period of time the installer paused to tell me I had to close certain
applications and then retry after which the progress bar picks right back
up as expected. This installer likes nothing running. Not IE, not WinAmp
and I closed down all tasktray apps except McAfee which will probably
cause a conflict sooner or later itself.

Hmm - I never like advising people to kill a running process, especially a
software patch, but there's clearly something getting in its way...

Have you considered rebooting the machine, switching off everything bar the
bare essentials and then trying again...?

 

[Juan T. Llibre]

re:

I closed down all tasktray apps except McAfee

I suspect that's the reason for the slow install.

If every time setup creates a new file McAfee has to scan it,
and since setup creates thousands of new files...

Have you tried stopping McAffee until setup finishes ?

 

[clintonG]

My install has finally finished successfully. Disabling the current install
of McAfee is nearly impossible. The UI has turned into a POS and I am going
to write them about this as managing their software has become inaccessible
from the tasktray requiring several manual operations to disable and
re-enable services.

At breakfast this morning I was also thinking about the paging file which I
surmised the VSSP1 installer may be using. I haven't been able to get past
the Continue button to the download page for any of the Expression
applications so in my still unsuccessful attempts to troubleshoot I have
disabled paging on c:\ and relocated the paging file to a second disk set to
a fixed Custom Size. I just reset on to allow System managed size so I have
to go reboot now...

<%= Clinton Gallagher

 

[Michael D. Ober]

I have installed it on three systems - one W2K SP4, and two XP SP2. On the
W2K and one of the XP boxes, it took about 4 hours. On the other XP box, it
took about 30 minutes. All have VS 2005 Standard. The only thing that was
really different was that the 30 minute install didn't have _ANY_ MS Office
applications started (not running, but simply started and closed). Once
again MS is doing too much integration of applications with the OS.

Mike Ober.