Website Help / Will not work in IE works in Firefox

Discussion in 'HTML' started by dmmitchell@gmail.com, Oct 2, 2007.

  1. Guest

    Hello, all -

    I am making a website for a group I am involved in. I designed it with
    Dreamweaver, and tested it in Firefox. Unfortunately, though, I
    discovered upon showing other people that it does not appear in IE.

    The website address, temporarily, is:

    www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm

    Please let me know what might fix this. I've been learning as I go,
    and cannot figure this one out.

    Thank you,
    Derek
    , Oct 2, 2007
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  2. John Hosking Guest

    wrote:
    > Hello, all -


    >
    > Please let me know what might fix this. I've been learning as I go,
    > and cannot figure this one out.


    Please learn not to multipost. See (at least one response in) c.i.w.a.h.

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    John Hosking, Oct 2, 2007
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  3. On Oct 1, 5:25 pm, wrote:
    > Hello, all -
    >
    > I am making a website for a group I am involved in. I designed it with
    > Dreamweaver, and tested it in Firefox. Unfortunately, though, I
    > discovered upon showing other people that it does not appear in IE.
    >
    > The website address, temporarily, is:
    >
    > www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm
    >
    > Please let me know what might fix this. I've been learning as I go,
    > and cannot figure this one out.
    >
    > Thank you,
    > Derek


    Hi, tried it in firefox and it look good. I noticed in the URL address
    box there was a tilda, I think that could be your problem. You might
    have to define that inside the <body> tag.
    =?iso-8859-1?B?TXIuRyAgKEC/QCk=?=, Oct 2, 2007
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  4. John Hosking Guest

    Mr.G (@¿@) wrote:
    > On Oct 1, 5:25 pm, wrote:


    >> I am making a website for a group I am involved in. I designed it with
    >> Dreamweaver, and tested it in Firefox. Unfortunately, though, I
    >> discovered upon showing other people that it does not appear in IE.


    >> www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm
    >>

    >
    > Hi, tried it in firefox and it look good. I noticed in the URL address
    > box there was a tilda, I think that could be your problem. You might
    > have to define that inside the <body> tag.


    Um, no.


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    John Hosking, Oct 2, 2007
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  5. Chaddy2222 Guest

    On Oct 2, 2:10 pm, John Hosking <>
    wrote:
    > Mr.G (@¿@) wrote:
    > > On Oct 1, 5:25 pm, wrote:
    > >> I am making a website for a group I am involved in. I designed it with
    > >> Dreamweaver, and tested it in Firefox. Unfortunately, though, I
    > >> discovered upon showing other people that it does not appear in IE.
    > >>www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm

    >
    > > Hi, tried it in firefox and it look good. I noticed in the URL address
    > > box there was a tilda, I think that could be your problem. You might
    > > have to define that inside the <body> tag.

    >
    > Um, no.
    >

    This is true. I think the Op should siriously consider the benifits of
    proper use of CSS and HTML and drop the nested table layout as the
    site does not even really need all those tables anyway.
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    Chaddy2222, Oct 2, 2007
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  6. ""Mr.G (@¿@)"" <> writes:

    > On Oct 1, 5:25 pm, wrote:
    >>
    >> www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm
    >>
    >> Please let me know what might fix this. I've been learning as I go,
    >> and cannot figure this one out.

    >
    > Hi, tried it in firefox and it look good. I noticed in the URL address
    > box there was a tilda, I think that could be your problem.


    That's absurd.

    Tildes - note the spelling - are perfectly valid and widely used in URLs, for
    the same reason they're used in paths appearing elsewhere, to indicate a user
    name. The above system is configured to allow each user his own htdocs/ dir,
    and the URL above will be served from Derek's account on that server.

    What's more, what kind of (il)logic leads you to the idea that a URL can cause
    layout problems? A broken URL wouldn't load at all.

    That said, I'm not even sure what layout issues we're talking about here - it
    looks pretty much the same to me, with IE6, IE7, Safari, and FF.

    sherm--

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    Sherm Pendley, Oct 2, 2007
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  7. John Hosking Guest

    Sherm Pendley wrote:
    > ""Mr.G (@¿@)"" <> writes:
    >
    >> Hi, tried it in firefox and it look good. I noticed in the URL address
    >> box there was a tilda, I think that could be your problem.

    >
    > That's absurd.


    Verily.

    > That said, I'm not even sure what layout issues we're talking about here - it
    > looks pretty much the same to me, with IE6, IE7, Safari, and FF.


    You see body text in the white space of
    http://www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm ?

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    John Hosking, Oct 2, 2007
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  8. John Hosking <> writes:

    > Sherm Pendley wrote:
    >> ""Mr.G (@¿@)"" <> writes:
    >>
    >>> Hi, tried it in firefox and it look good. I noticed in the URL address
    >>> box there was a tilda, I think that could be your problem.

    >>
    >> That's absurd.

    >
    > Verily.
    >
    >> That said, I'm not even sure what layout issues we're talking about here - it
    >> looks pretty much the same to me, with IE6, IE7, Safari, and FF.

    >
    > You see body text in the white space of
    > http://www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm ?


    To be honest, I'm not certain what you're asking. Here's what I see with IE6:

    <http://dot-app.org/screen.gif>

    sherm--

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    Sherm Pendley, Oct 2, 2007
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  9. John Hosking Guest

    Sherm Pendley wrote:
    > John Hosking writes:
    >
    >> Sherm Pendley wrote:
    >>
    >>> That said, I'm not even sure what layout issues we're talking about here - it
    >>> looks pretty much the same to me, with IE6, IE7, Safari, and FF.

    >> You see body text in the white space of
    >> http://www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm ?

    >
    > To be honest, I'm not certain what you're asking. Here's what I see with IE6:
    >
    > <http://dot-app.org/screen.gif>


    Ah. You lucky dog. Here's what *I* see:
    <http://mypage.bluewin.ch/jlh/UMaineSG.jpg>

    The OP has changed a few things since I responded but my IE6 (and, I
    presume, his as well) still shows a gaping hole where the body text
    should be. Apparently it's not because of validation errors or his JS
    marquee, both since removed...


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    John Hosking, Oct 3, 2007
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  10. John Hosking wrote:
    > Sherm Pendley wrote:
    >> John Hosking writes:
    >>
    >>> Sherm Pendley wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> That said, I'm not even sure what layout issues we're talking about here - it
    >>>> looks pretty much the same to me, with IE6, IE7, Safari, and FF.
    >>> You see body text in the white space of
    >>> http://www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm ?

    >>
    >> To be honest, I'm not certain what you're asking. Here's what I see with IE6:
    >>
    >> <http://dot-app.org/screen.gif>

    >
    > Ah. You lucky dog. Here's what *I* see:
    ><http://mypage.bluewin.ch/jlh/UMaineSG.jpg>
    >
    > The OP has changed a few things since I responded but my IE6 (and, I
    > presume, his as well) still shows a gaping hole where the body text
    > should be. Apparently it's not because of validation errors or his JS
    > marquee, both since removed...


    Okay here with IE6/XPsp2 (other than that banner image never
    completing). It's also slow, but college kids have broadband.


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    Blinky the Shark, Oct 3, 2007
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  11. John Hosking <> writes:

    > Sherm Pendley wrote:
    >> John Hosking writes:
    >>
    >>> Sherm Pendley wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> That said, I'm not even sure what layout issues we're talking about here - it
    >>>> looks pretty much the same to me, with IE6, IE7, Safari, and FF.
    >>> You see body text in the white space of
    >>> http://www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm ?

    >>
    >> To be honest, I'm not certain what you're asking. Here's what I see with IE6:
    >>
    >> <http://dot-app.org/screen.gif>

    >
    > Ah. You lucky dog. Here's what *I* see:
    > <http://mypage.bluewin.ch/jlh/UMaineSG.jpg>


    Ah! Well, at least I understand the question now. Can't explain it though.

    My IE6 is part of a "virgin" XP install that hasn't been updated. That's not
    as dangerous as it sounds - I only run it for testing, and then only in a
    Parallels virtual session. :)

    So maybe the page relies on some bug in early builds of IE6 that was fixed
    in later releases. Other than that possibility, I have no idea what the
    problem might be.

    sherm--

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    Sherm Pendley, Oct 3, 2007
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  12. Vaxius Guest

    On Oct 1, 7:25 pm, wrote:
    > Hello, all -
    >
    > I am making a website for a group I am involved in. I designed it with
    > Dreamweaver, and tested it in Firefox. Unfortunately, though, I
    > discovered upon showing other people that it does not appear in IE.
    >
    > The website address, temporarily, is:
    >
    > www.umit.maine.edu/~derek.mitchell/index.htm
    >
    > Please let me know what might fix this. I've been learning as I go,
    > and cannot figure this one out.
    >
    > Thank you,
    > Derek


    The only thing I can think of suggesting is to clean up the css, use
    proper tags (<br> or <br /> instead of <BR>) and see if it works.
    Otherwise, I'd look into restructuring your page to get rid of the
    tables completely and use divs. Also, using FrontPage is one of the
    worst things you can do to your site as far as W3C compliance goes, so
    I would think about using something else.
    Vaxius, Oct 5, 2007
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  13. John Hosking Guest

    John Hosking, Oct 5, 2007
    #13
  14. Vaxius wrote:

    > The only thing I can think of suggesting is to clean up the css, use
    > proper tags (<br> or <br /> instead of <BR>) and see if it works.


    Actually <BR> or <br> is proper for *html*, <br /> for *xhtml*

    > Otherwise, I'd look into restructuring your page to get rid of the
    > tables completely and use divs.


    or P for paragraphs, H# for headings and UL for list...

    > Also, using FrontPage is one of the
    > worst things you can do to your site as far as W3C compliance goes, so
    > I would think about using something else.
    >


    We Word or Publisher has proven to be far worse, but just about any
    "WYSIWYG" editor without careful tweaking produces subpar results.

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    Jonathan N. Little, Oct 5, 2007
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  15. Vaxius Guest

    On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:40:08 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

    > Vaxius wrote:
    >
    >> The only thing I can think of suggesting is to clean up the css, use
    >> proper tags (<br> or <br /> instead of <BR>) and see if it works.

    >
    > Actually <BR> or <br> is proper for *html*, <br /> for *xhtml*


    I included <br> as a proper tag, and I concede that the rest are
    technically valid. I just thought that all lowercase is simply the
    generally accepted method...and all caps tags really annoy me, too. =P

    Also, I know that <br /> is an xhtml thing, but there's no reason not to
    use it, especially if the OP wants to make his site xhtml compatible in
    the future with minimal effort.
    >
    >> Otherwise, I'd look into restructuring your page to get rid of the
    >> tables completely and use divs.

    >
    > or P for paragraphs, H# for headings and UL for list...
    >
    >> Also, using FrontPage is one of the
    >> worst things you can do to your site as far as W3C compliance goes, so
    >> I would think about using something else.
    >>
    >>

    > We Word or Publisher has proven to be far worse, but just about any
    > "WYSIWYG" editor without careful tweaking produces subpar results.


    Haha, I used Publisher back in 96-97 when I was inexperienced and didn't
    know any better (I learned soon after the kinds of evil things it was
    doing to my pages).
    Vaxius, Oct 5, 2007
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  16. Dan Guest

    On Oct 4, 10:00 pm, Vaxius <> wrote:
    > Also, I know that <br /> is an xhtml thing, but there's no reason not to
    > use it, especially if the OP wants to make his site xhtml compatible in
    > the future with minimal effort.


    Only if the doctype is XHTML; it's invalid for HTML (or, technically
    speaking, means something different; under the HTML standard, the
    slash terminates the tag, leaving the right angle bracket as a plain
    text character, though browsers don't actually interpret it that way
    although the official standard says they should).

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    Dan, Oct 6, 2007
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  17. Ritwik Kumar Guest

    Hi ,
    can u pl help me sort out this problem.....
    a site http://www.kuliza.com/ open quite well if i use Internet
    explorer but
    display if i use firefox is not as desired.... wat could be the reason

    ritwik kumar
    Ritwik Kumar, Nov 8, 2007
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  18. Bone Ur Guest

    Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Thu, 08 Nov 2007 04:06:18 GMT
    Ritwik Kumar scribed:

    > Hi ,
    > can u pl help me sort out this problem.....
    > a site http://www.kuliza.com/ open quite well if i use Internet
    > explorer but
    > display if i use firefox is not as desired.... wat could be the reason
    >
    > ritwik kumar


    Wow, that is one radical difference! The main reason is you designed for
    ie, not for standards-compliant browsers. As for specifics, I really don't
    have time to recreate your page from scratch, but kudos on the marketing
    line "Products at Kuliza are designed by gurus".

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    Bone Ur, Nov 8, 2007
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  19. Knut Krueger Guest

    Ritwik Kumar schrieb:
    > Hi ,
    > can u pl help me sort out this problem.....
    > a site http://www.kuliza.com/ open quite well if i use Internet
    > explorer but
    > display if i use firefox is not as desired.... wat could be the reason
    >
    > ritwik kumar
    >

    Maybe you should try to solve the HTML errors first,
    http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.kuliza.com/
    and second
    the CSS code
    http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/
    (this advice was given to me from this group after my first question ;-)
    but it is very helpful )

    Regards Knut
    Knut Krueger, Nov 8, 2007
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