What do you call it? How do you set it?

R

Rob

What is that little thing (icon) that appears to the left of the URL
for some websites?
How do you set it? Can I identify it (and get it) from the page
source?

Thanks, Rob
 
T

Tina Peters

Rob said:
What is that little thing (icon) that appears to the left of the URL
for some websites?
How do you set it? Can I identify it (and get it) from the page
source?


See: favicon.com

--Tina
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

dorayme said:
What exactly does

"MSIE looks automatically for "favicon.ico" in the root directory
of your site, this can be irritating as sites without them tend
to get a lot of 404 errors generated from it."

at this url mean?

It means that some browsers search for the file "/favicon.ico" without
having it explicitly coded in the markup. So if you do not have a file
named "favicon.ico" in your document root you can see 404 errors for the
file in your server logs. MSIE is not the only browser, Firefox also
looks for the file. You can confirm by putting an image/x-icon icon
16x16px in your document root and see what happens even if your don't add

<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon" src="/favicon.ico>

to the document...
 
D

dorayme

"Jonathan N. Little said:
It means that some browsers search for the file "/favicon.ico" without
having it explicitly coded in the markup. So if you do not have a file
named "favicon.ico" in your document root you can see 404 errors for the
file in your server logs. MSIE is not the only browser, Firefox also
looks for the file. You can confirm by putting an image/x-icon icon
16x16px in your document root and see what happens even if your don't add

<link rel="icon" type="image/x-icon" src="/favicon.ico>

to the document...

So, it means like it suggests, that lack of such a file can cause
someone to simply not get to a url that you want them to get to?
I take it, then, that it is wise to ensure there is such a file
on the server? I have never done this. No one has mentioned this
to me ever? What the hell more is there to know? At least on
Mars, knowledge is all laid out and quite finite.

Not more than ten mins back someone said she got a "not found" to
a link of mine showing my latest designs for a print job to her.
I know she sees links fine mostly and especially at her home
(where she runs FF) but at her work she uses IE. And I am
thinking could it be this business?
 
J

Jonathan N. Little

dorayme said:
So, it means like it suggests, that lack of such a file can cause
someone to simply not get to a url that you want them to get to?
I take it, then, that it is wise to ensure there is such a file
on the server?

No I think you misunderstand. If you do not have a favicon.ico on the
server and even with no references to such a file you can see 404 errors
in your logs for the favicon.ico

404 errors are logged not just for HTML documents but for images and
stylesheets and other resources normally linked but not present on the
server.
I have never done this. No one has mentioned this
to me ever? What the hell more is there to know? At least on
Mars, knowledge is all laid out and quite finite.

Not more than ten mins back someone said she got a "not found" to
a link of mine showing my latest designs for a print job to her.
I know she sees links fine mostly and especially at her home
(where she runs FF) but at her work she uses IE. And I am
thinking could it be this business?

Don't think that is connected, were you uploading the document
concurrently with her request? Or maybe a network error at her end.
 
S

Steven Saunderson

So, it means like it suggests, that lack of such a file can cause
someone to simply not get to a url that you want them to get to?
I take it, then, that it is wise to ensure there is such a file
on the server?

I generally put a dummy favicon.ico (size 0) in the root directory of
the site when I setup hosting for someone. It stops 404 errors. A
dummy robots.txt is also good for the same reason.
 
D

dorayme

No I think you misunderstand. If you do not have a favicon.ico on the
server and even with no references to such a file you can see 404 errors
in your logs for the favicon.ico

OK. it is just in server logs. That is a relief to know. Thanks.
I can forget about these little things then. Good.
 
D

dorayme

Steven Saunderson said:
I generally put a dummy favicon.ico (size 0) in the root directory of
the site when I setup hosting for someone. It stops 404 errors. A
dummy robots.txt is also good for the same reason.

OK, Steven, I won't completely forget about them as I maintained
to JL, I will get around to doing what you do. You never know who
might be interested in a 404 error or its absence. It could be
the one little thing in this world that brings everything
crashing down, due to a butterfly effect... <g>

Seriously, thanks for this.
 
T

Toby A Inkster

Jonathan said:
MSIE is not the only browser, Firefox also looks for the file.

Opera can be configured to look for it. Not sure what it does by default,
but I've got mine set to ignore favicons.

--
Toby A Inkster BSc (Hons) ARCS
Contact Me ~ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/contact
Geek of ~ HTML/SQL/Perl/PHP/Python*/Apache/Linux

* = I'm getting there!
 
R

Rob

Thanks to everyone who replied.
The instructions I found were very clear and it now works.

Cheers, Rob
 
B

Blinky the Shark

dorayme said:
I _am_ impressed by you knowing this. To be perfectly frank, I would

WWII history fan.

But now engaged in 900 pages' worth of "Dreadnought: Britain, Germany
and the Coming of the Great War", ISBN 0-345-37556-4. On order from
the Military Book Club: "Nelson's Trafalgar", ISBN 0-670-03448-7
not mind having one mounted on my roof to blast away at the three dogs
that bark too much in the house behind me.

And don't overlook the possibilities that arise when one has one of
these mounted on his automobile.
 
A

Adrienne Boswell

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed Toby A Inkster <usenet200703
@tobyinkster.co.uk> writing in
Opera can be configured to look for it. Not sure what it does by default,
but I've got mine set to ignore favicons.

Really? They're a real help for me, especially if I have a lot of tabs
open. Since I usually start Opera from the last session, I can
"configure" Opera just the way I want it, with the sites I work with all
the time on the left, and newer ones on the right.
 

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