What does the SRC in <IMG SRC> stand for?

Discussion in 'HTML' started by pheadxdll, Jun 1, 2007.

  1. pheadxdll

    pheadxdll Guest

    Here's what I've been wondering:

    What exactly does the SRC in <img src="w/e"/> stand for?

    I've been brought up thinking it stands for source but the state's
    outdated curriculum says its search which doesn't sound right to me.
    What are your opionions?

    Thanks,

    Alex
     
    pheadxdll, Jun 1, 2007
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  2. pheadxdll wrote:
    > Here's what I've been wondering:
    >
    > What exactly does the SRC in <img src="w/e"/> stand for?
    >
    > I've been brought up thinking it stands for source but the state's
    > outdated curriculum says its search which doesn't sound right to me.
    > What are your opionions?
    >


    What state? Curriculum for what?

    In any event, it's definitely "source", whether it's the source of an
    image, a frame, an INPUT tag, or a script, all of which have an
    available src attribute. "Search" doesn't make sense.
     
    Harlan Messinger, Jun 1, 2007
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  3. pheadxdll

    pheadxdll Guest

    On Jun 1, 10:37 am, Harlan Messinger
    <> wrote:
    > pheadxdll wrote:
    > > Here's what I've been wondering:

    >
    > > What exactly does the SRC in <img src="w/e"/> stand for?

    >
    > > I've been brought up thinking it stands for source but the state's
    > > outdated curriculum says its search which doesn't sound right to me.
    > > What are your opionions?

    >
    > What state? Curriculum for what?
    >
    > In any event, it's definitely "source", whether it's the source of an
    > image, a frame, an INPUT tag, or a script, all of which have an
    > available src attribute. "Search" doesn't make sense.


    Makes sense. Thank you very much.
     
    pheadxdll, Jun 1, 2007
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  4. pheadxdll

    rf Guest

    "pheadxdll" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    > Here's what I've been wondering:
    >
    > What exactly does the SRC in <img src="w/e"/> stand for?


    <quote src='specifications'>
    This attribute specifies the location of the image resource...
    </quote>

    Since the specifications don't actually specify what src means we can only
    assume it means whatever we want it to mean but my money is on "source".

    > I've been brought up thinking it stands for source but the state's
    > outdated curriculum says its search which doesn't sound right to me.


    s/outdated/misguided/

    > What are your opionions?


    How does "search" condense to "src"? And there is no "searching" involved.
    It's either exactly where you said it is or it's a 404, not found.

    Then again what does <span> mean? Nothing to do with bridges over rapidly
    running rivers.

    --
    Richard.
     
    rf, Jun 1, 2007
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  5. pheadxdll

    Bergamot Guest

    Bergamot, Jun 1, 2007
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  6. rf wrote:
    > "pheadxdll" <> wrote in message
    > news:...
    >> Here's what I've been wondering:
    >>
    >> What exactly does the SRC in <img src="w/e"/> stand for?

    >
    > <quote src='specifications'>
    > This attribute specifies the location of the image resource...
    > </quote>
    >
    > Since the specifications don't actually specify what src means we can only
    > assume it means whatever we want it to mean but my money is on "source".


    We can assume it was chosen as an abbreviation for something meaningful,
    and that seems to be the most likely candidate.
    > Then again what does <span> mean? Nothing to do with bridges over rapidly
    > running rivers.


    The meaning of "span" wasn't that specific even before HTML.
     
    Harlan Messinger, Jun 1, 2007
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  7. pheadxdll

    Neredbojias Guest

    On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 14:28:47 GMT pheadxdll scribed:

    > Here's what I've been wondering:
    >
    > What exactly does the SRC in <img src="w/e"/> stand for?
    >
    > I've been brought up thinking it stands for source but the state's
    > outdated curriculum says its search which doesn't sound right to me.
    > What are your opionions?


    Well, back in the old days before the word "digital" meant anything not
    related to the finger or archeology, teletype information streams were
    often referred to as "Serially Received Crap". That could be it.

    --
    Neredbojias
    He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.
     
    Neredbojias, Jun 1, 2007
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  8. pheadxdll

    Dan Guest

    On Jun 1, 10:37 am, Harlan Messinger
    <> wrote:
    > In any event, it's definitely "source", whether it's the source of an
    > image, a frame, an INPUT tag, or a script, all of which have an
    > available src attribute. "Search" doesn't make sense.


    Do you have a source for that? :)

    --
    Dan
     
    Dan, Jun 3, 2007
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  9. On 2007-06-01, rf wrote:
    >
    > How does "search" condense to "src"?


    In exactly the same way that "source" does: remove the 2nd, 3rd and
    6th letters.

    ;)

    --
    Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
    ===================================================================
    Author:
    Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
     
    Chris F.A. Johnson, Jun 3, 2007
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  10. pheadxdll

    dorayme Guest

    In article <>,
    "Chris F.A. Johnson" <> wrote:

    > On 2007-06-01, rf wrote:
    > >
    > > How does "search" condense to "src"?

    >
    > In exactly the same way that "source" does: remove the 2nd, 3rd and
    > 6th letters.



    Indeed, that is what I have always assumed.

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Jun 4, 2007
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  11. On 2007-06-03, dorayme wrote:
    > In article <>,
    > "Chris F.A. Johnson" <> wrote:
    >
    >> On 2007-06-01, rf wrote:
    >> >
    >> > How does "search" condense to "src"?

    >>
    >> In exactly the same way that "source" does: remove the 2nd, 3rd and
    >> 6th letters.

    >
    > Indeed, that is what I have always assumed.


    Of course, the reduction to 'src' can also be accomplished by the
    more standard removal of vowels. With 'search', that leaves
    'srch', which is the more common abbreviation.

    --
    Chris F.A. Johnson <http://cfaj.freeshell.org>
    ===================================================================
    Author:
    Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress)
     
    Chris F.A. Johnson, Jun 4, 2007
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  12. pheadxdll

    dorayme Guest

    In article <>,
    "Chris F.A. Johnson" <> wrote:

    > On 2007-06-03, dorayme wrote:
    > > In article <>,
    > > "Chris F.A. Johnson" <> wrote:


    > Of course, the reduction to 'src' can also be accomplished by the
    > more standard removal of vowels. With 'search', that leaves
    > 'srch', which is the more common abbreviation.


    Yes, src has seemed to many of us, I am sure, an abbreviation by
    the usual method of vowel removal.

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Jun 4, 2007
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  13. Scripsit dorayme:

    > Yes, src has seemed to many of us, I am sure, an abbreviation by
    > the usual method of vowel removal.


    Some people seem to have though of it as a misspelling of "scr", presumably
    short for "screen". I've rather often seen the attribute name as "scr", and
    although it could be just a typo (metathesis), I've wondered whether it has
    some explanation.

    Nevertheless, the SRC in <IMG SRC> stands for the attribute that indicates
    the URL of the image. Nothing more, nothing less. We can discuss its
    historic origin at any length, and the explanation as an abbreviation of
    "source" is most probably correct, but it has no impact on the _meaning_ of
    the attribute. Once you take a word or abbreviation from a natural language
    and define it e.g. as an element name, attribute name, function name, or
    whatever, it by definition loses connection with the natural language - it's
    just a defined symbol, with no other meaning than the one you have given to
    it.

    This is particularly important when you consider names that were chosen
    poorly, such as the element name "a" or the CSS property name
    "letter-spacing" (which affects the spacing between all characters, not just
    letters) or "white-space" (which also affects line breaking in strings
    containing no white space).

    --
    Jukka K. Korpela ("Yucca")
    http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
     
    Jukka K. Korpela, Jun 4, 2007
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  14. pheadxdll

    dorayme Guest

    In article <XEO8i.173434$>,
    "Jukka K. Korpela" <> wrote:

    > Once you take a word or abbreviation from a natural language
    > and define it e.g. as an element name, attribute name, function name, or
    > whatever, it by definition loses connection with the natural language - it's
    > just a defined symbol, with no other meaning than the one you have given to
    > it.


    Yes, indeed. I think there is a general phenomena under which
    this comes. Many names, for instance, had their origins in words
    that had natural meaning, connotations from occupations, places
    of birth, and other things. It is rare to even think of these
    "natural" meanings with proper names, they no longer "mean"
    anything, their meaning is exhausted in acting as labels to refer
    to individuals, their origins long forgotten.

    --
    dorayme
     
    dorayme, Jun 4, 2007
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  15. pheadxdll

    Dan Guest

    On Jun 4, 2:52 am, "Jukka K. Korpela" <> wrote:
    > Scripsit dorayme:
    >
    > This is particularly important when you consider names that were chosen
    > poorly, such as the element name "a" or the CSS property name
    > "letter-spacing" (which affects the spacing between all characters, not just
    > letters) or "white-space" (which also affects line breaking in strings
    > containing no white space).


    ....and also affects spacing even when the background color is
    something other than white. (There's no "grey-space" or "pink-space"
    property, as far as I know.)

    --
    Dan
     
    Dan, Jun 4, 2007
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  16. pheadxdll

    Dan Guest

    On Jun 4, 5:03 am, dorayme <> wrote:

    > Yes, indeed. I think there is a general phenomena under which
    > this comes. Many names, for instance, had their origins in words
    > that had natural meaning, connotations from occupations, places
    > of birth, and other things. It is rare to even think of these
    > "natural" meanings with proper names, they no longer "mean"
    > anything, their meaning is exhausted in acting as labels to refer
    > to individuals, their origins long forgotten.


    And it's happened in the other direction too; lots of words derive
    from proper names, like "boycott" (after somebody named Boycott who
    was, er, boycotted) and "chauvanist" (I don't think I spelled that
    right... Mozilla's spellchecker is underlining it... but then again,
    Mozilla's spellchecker is underlining "spellchecker" too) is after
    some French politician named "Chauvan" (which I may have misspelled
    too). (I can't look anything up... Wikipedia is having server
    problems! And of course I'm too lazy to get up and grab my
    dictionary.)

    --
    Dan
     
    Dan, Jun 4, 2007
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  17. pheadxdll

    Neredbojias Guest

    On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:57:19 GMT Dan scribed:

    > On Jun 4, 5:03 am, dorayme <> wrote:
    >
    >> Yes, indeed. I think there is a general phenomena under which
    >> this comes. Many names, for instance, had their origins in words
    >> that had natural meaning, connotations from occupations, places
    >> of birth, and other things. It is rare to even think of these
    >> "natural" meanings with proper names, they no longer "mean"
    >> anything, their meaning is exhausted in acting as labels to refer
    >> to individuals, their origins long forgotten.

    >
    > And it's happened in the other direction too; lots of words derive
    > from proper names, like "boycott" (after somebody named Boycott who
    > was, er, boycotted) and "chauvanist" (I don't think I spelled that
    > right... Mozilla's spellchecker is underlining it... but then again,
    > Mozilla's spellchecker is underlining "spellchecker" too) is after
    > some French politician named "Chauvan" (which I may have misspelled
    > too). (I can't look anything up... Wikipedia is having server
    > problems! And of course I'm too lazy to get up and grab my
    > dictionary.)


    And don't forget "Balzac" who relieved us of the need for goin' 'round
    saying "scrotum" all the time...

    --
    Neredbojias
    He who laughs last sounds like an idiot.
     
    Neredbojias, Jun 6, 2007
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