Where to host a (Python) project?

[andrew cooke]

Hi,

I have a new project, that I just released in beta (http://
www.acooke.org/lepl - a recursive decent parser with full
backtracking). At the moment I am using pypi and setuptools for
distribution (it's a pure python package) and I am happy with hosting
static web pages (the manual and api doc linked to above) on my own
site (I did try the packages.python.org web pages, but it seemed
pointless duplicating my own).

However, i am thinking I could really do with:
- a mailing list
- simple bug tracking
- subversion
and am wondering which is the best (free) provider for these (the code
is LGPL open source). I'd prefer a mailing list to something like
google groups (although I guess it may be possible to configure a
gateway) and I could open up my personal subversion server, but that
seems like a lot of work (not really that interested in moving to
something other than svn).

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Andrew

 

[Martin]

Hi,

However, i am thinking I could really do with:
- a mailing list
- simple bug tracking
- subversion
and am wondering which is the best (free) provider for these (the code
is LGPL open source). I'd prefer a mailing list to something like
google groups (although I guess it may be possible to configure a
gateway) and I could open up my personal subversion server, but that
seems like a lot of work (not really that interested in moving to
something other than svn).

Google Groups can be perfectly used as Mailings Lists - while I'm not
a huge fan of them that isn't an argument from your feature list

There's tigris.org, savannah (savannah.gnu.org, nongnu.org),
launchpad. All of them are fine to some extent, you might want to read
up on PyMotW about how Doug Hellmann decided where to host his stuff.

hth
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[andrew cooke]

There's tigris.org, savannah (savannah.gnu.org, nongnu.org),
launchpad. All of them are fine to some extent, you might want to read
up on PyMotW about how Doug Hellmann decided where to host his stuff.

all i can find is that he is writing his own!
http://blog.doughellmann.com/search/label/codehosting
(his reqs are quite different to mine - I am looking for an external
provider because I do not want to host dynamic pages myself).

anyway, if that was what you mean, fine - i just wonder if i am
missing something?

thanks,
andrew

 

[Martin]

all i can find is that he is writing his own!
http://blog.doughellmann.com/search/label/codehosting
(his reqs are quite different to mine - I am looking for an external
provider because I do not want to host dynamic pages myself).

Darn, my bad. I just remembered that something happened in terms of
hosting on his site, I thought he had decided on this:

http://blog.doughellmann.com/2008/12/moving-pymotw-to-public-repository.html
(seems he didn't have any time...)

anyway, tigris, nongnu and savannah are hopefully at least useable
information

/Martin



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[Michele Simionato]

Any recommendations?

Google Code seems fine.

 

[eliben]

Hi,

I have a new project, that I just released in beta (http://
www.acooke.org/lepl - a recursive decent parser with full
backtracking). At the moment I am using pypi and setuptools for
distribution (it's a pure python package) and I am happy with hosting
static web pages (the manual and api doc linked to above) on my own
site (I did try the packages.python.org web pages, but it seemed
pointless duplicating my own).

However, i am thinking I could really do with:
- a mailing list
- simple bug tracking
- subversion

code.google.com provides all of these in a free and convenient manner.
Recommended.

 

[andrew cooke]

code.google.com provides all of these in a free and convenient manner.
Recommended.

unfortunately google don't seem that reliable ;o) (have you tried a
google search today?)

 

[Colin J. Williams]

unfortunately google don't seem that reliable ;o) (have you tried a
google search today?)

I had a search problem today (10:00),
the first I can remember, in which the
response from a Google pointer was:

Warning - visiting this web site may
harm your computer!

Yes, this is not Python related but I
think that it is likely of general
interest.

Now, at 12:00, I get the page I was seeking.

Colin W.

 

[ajaksu]

unfortunately google don't seem that reliable ;o)  (have you tried a
google search today?)

You can mirror at LP, bitbucket, github, etc.

 

[Giampaolo Rodola']

Hi,

I have a new project, that I just released in beta (http://www.acooke.org/lepl- a recursive decent parser with full
backtracking).  At the moment I am using pypi and setuptools for
distribution (it's a pure python package) and I am happy with hosting
static web pages (the manual and api doc linked to above) on my own
site (I did try the packages.python.org web pages, but it seemed
pointless duplicating my own).

However, i am thinking I could really do with:
- a mailing list
- simple bug tracking
- subversion
and am wondering which is the best (free) provider for these (the code
is LGPL open source).  I'd prefer a mailing list to something like
google groups (although I guess it may be possible to configure a
gateway) and I could open up my personal subversion server, but that
seems like a lot of work (not really that interested in moving to
something other than svn).

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
Andrew

Google Code.


--- Giampaolo
http://code.google.com/p/pyftpdlib

 

[Andrey Demidov]

I use Google Code.

 

[andrew cooke]

Google Code.

--- Giampaolohttp://code.google.com/p/pyftpdlib

thanks - that's a nice example. i'm a bit concerned about the whole
google corporation thing, but reading through the ideological check-
sheet at savannah convinced me i wasn't worthy and your project looks
good (i admit i haven't seen that many google projects, but they all
seemed abandoned/bare/hostile). so i'll follow the majority here and
give google code a go.

cheers,
andrew

 

[Jesse Noller]

thanks - that's a nice example. i'm a bit concerned about the whole
google corporation thing, but reading through the ideological check-
sheet at savannah convinced me i wasn't worthy and your project looks
good (i admit i haven't seen that many google projects, but they all
seemed abandoned/bare/hostile). so i'll follow the majority here and
give google code a go.

cheers,
andrew

Bitbucket: http://bitbucket.org/ (I use this, move from google code)
Github: http://github.com/
Launchapd: https://launchpad.net/
FreeHG: http://freehg.org/

Google is nice due to the groups/mailing list options, but I find I
don't miss mailing lists all that much after being subscribed to so
many.

-jesse

 

[Roy H. Han]

I really like WebFaction for web-based Python projects. It's a paid
web-hosting service, though. What I like is how they always have the
most up-to-date Python packages and frameworks using one-click
installers.

 

[Aahz]

However, i am thinking I could really do with:
- a mailing list
- simple bug tracking
- subversion
and am wondering which is the best (free) provider for these (the code
is LGPL open source). I'd prefer a mailing list to something like
google groups (although I guess it may be possible to configure a
gateway) and I could open up my personal subversion server, but that
seems like a lot of work (not really that interested in moving to
something other than svn).

Note that it's fairly easy to get a new list hosted at python.org, just
ask postmaster. I for one won't participate in any list hosted on
Google because of the need for a Google login.

 

[andrew cooke]

Note that it's fairly easy to get a new list hosted at python.org, just
ask postmaster.  I for one won't participate in any list hosted on
Google because of the need for a Google login.

ah well - i guess you can use pyparsing ;o)

http://code.google.com/p/lepl/

andrew

 

[andrew cooke]

[...] I for one won't participate in any list hosted on
Google because of the need for a Google login.

hi, just fyi, i investigated this and you can join any publicly
readable group by sending an email to the "-subscribe" address. you
do not need a google login for this and, as far as i can tell, it then
operates for you like a normal mailing list.

for example, to subscribe to the group foo, you would send an email to
(e-mail address removed). to unsubscribe, use foo-
(e-mail address removed).

this isn't exactly well-publicised, but i tested it and it does work.

andrew

 

[Aahz]

[...]=A0I for one won't participate in any list hosted on
Google because of the need for a Google login.

hi, just fyi, i investigated this and you can join any publicly
readable group by sending an email to the "-subscribe" address. you
do not need a google login for this and, as far as i can tell, it then
operates for you like a normal mailing list.

for example, to subscribe to the group foo, you would send an email to
(e-mail address removed). to unsubscribe, use foo-
(e-mail address removed).

this isn't exactly well-publicised, but i tested it and it does work.

The same thing is theoretically true for Yahoo groups, but I've heard
from people over the years about various difficulties fixing problems
with list subscriptions in the absence of a real Yahoo login and I'm not
particularly interested in finding out that the same thing ends up being
true for Google lists.