Which java file needs to be associatee with MSN stock quote?

[pdsnickles]

I installed Netscape 7.2 and then when I went to get a stock quote at
the MSN home page it asked me what program I want to use to open the
javawebstart.dll? I didn't understand the question and browsed to
Netscape, which crashed my browser.

I then found the webstart.dll and unassociated it with javawebstart.dll
so it no longer crashes my browser.

But what SHOULD I point the webstart.dll to? I tried looking in my Java
folder and tried associating it with the java app, but this did not
work, either. Can someone please give me the exact file name and
location I need to point to, to get my Netscape to work with the MSN
stock quote box?

By the way, WHY did Netscape even need me to answer this question? Why
wouldn't it just automatically go to the right program or plug in, to
open it, or prompt me to download the right plug in or program??

Thanks for the help.

p.s. These are the files that seem to have been involved in this
debacle:
setupsrc.dll - application extension
eula.dll sun microsystems app. extension
javawspl.dll - app. extension
javawebstart.dll - app. extension

 

[Andrew Thompson]

On 22 Jan 2005 19:32:47 -0800, (e-mail address removed) wrote:

Queries of this nature are better answered on a group designed
for folks new to Java, and end users.
<http://www.physci.org/codes/javafaq.jsp#cljh>

Having said that..

I installed Netscape 7.2 and then when I went to get a stock quote

[1] Exact URL that you clicked?

.at the MSN home page ...

Surfing MSN for Java 1.3+ tickers with 'the other' browser..

You are ambitious!

..it asked me what program I want to use to open the
javawebstart.dll?

Java Webstart is something that can install Java software on your computer.

If the software requires 'security' access to your system, it
will ask you, the end user, for your permission. JWS places
menu items for the program in the 'Program' menu, and an icon
on the desktop (again in consultation with you).

JWS main advantage beyond that is that it can keep the software up to
date automatically - no 'patches' to install - ever.

It could be that your NN 7.2 is running a pre 1.3 Java,
but I doubt it. Check here..
<http://www.physci.org/pc/property.jsp?prop=java.version>

OTOH, it might be MSN's use of the <OBJECT> element, without
a associated <EMBED> 'element'. But since <EMBED> is invalid
HTML, I would not blame them.

This can be determined from the HTML source of the page itself.
But that brings us back to.. [1]

 

[pdsnickles]

Thanks for the info. I will take this to the group you mentioned, since
I am a beginner - not EVEN a beginner, I'm just someone trying to solve
a problem which happens to involve java, apparently.

To answer your question, the url I am referring to is:
http://www.msn.com/

See the stock quote box there on the right, towards the middle? That's
the one that through my Netscape the question as to how I wish to open
a .dll.

That is what I want to resolve with Netscape, to make Netscape (7.2)
get the stock quote.

The weird thing is, 7.02 opened it, no problem, and I'm sure other
people's 7.2's are opening it, as I've found no other posts re this
problem. So I dont understand why MY 7.2 would not open it
automatically...?

According to http://mindprod.com/wassup.html, my "browser appears to be
already configured properly for Java Web Start."

 

[Roland]

I installed Netscape 7.2 and then when I went to get a stock quote at
the MSN home page it asked me what program I want to use to open the
javawebstart.dll?

Are you sure it's 'javawebstart.dll'? Using Mozilla, I was prompted with
'webquote.dll' when I tried a stock quote on M$N ("Get Quote" and then
pressing "Go").

I didn't understand the question and browsed to
Netscape, which crashed my browser.

I then found the webstart.dll and unassociated it with javawebstart.dll
so it no longer crashes my browser.

But what SHOULD I point the webstart.dll to?

To nothing.

I tried looking in my Java
folder and tried associating it with the java app, but this did not
work, either. Can someone please give me the exact file name and
location I need to point to,

I'm afraid, nobody can.

to get my Netscape to work with the MSN
stock quote box?

I'm afraid, you can't.

Hmm...
Well, maybe...
You could write to M$N and ask them why they don't support Netscape,
Mozilla or any Gecko based browser.

By the way, WHY did Netscape even need me to answer this question?

Because Microsoft chose not to send a HTTP Content-Type response header.
In absence of a Content-Type header, Netscape and Mozilla (in fact any
Gecko based browser) try to guess the content type of what's being
returned from M$N. Seeing the extension .dll, it prompts you to
associate a program with it (Netscape, as in your case, I guess) or to
save it (Mozilla, in my case).

Why
wouldn't it just automatically go to the right program or plug in, to
open it, or prompt me to download the right plug in or program??

Hmm...
Maybe 'cause it's a Microsoft site?

Thanks for the help.

p.s. These are the files that seem to have been involved in this
debacle:
setupsrc.dll - application extension
eula.dll sun microsystems app. extension
javawspl.dll - app. extension
javawebstart.dll - app. extension

It has nothing to do with Java. The M$N site works as designed, i.e.
with Internet Explorer.

HTH,

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Regards,

Roland de Ruiter
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[Andrew Thompson]

Are you sure it's 'javawebstart.dll'? Using Mozilla, I was prompted with
'webquote.dll' ..

I see you beat me too it Roland. I'll follow up the thread on
c.l.j.help in case the OP tuned out of this one.

 

[Roland]

I see you beat me too it Roland. I'll follow up the thread on
c.l.j.help in case the OP tuned out of this one.

I've beaten you there too ;-)

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Roland de Ruiter
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[Andrew Thompson]

I've beaten you there too ;-)

<shaking clenched fist in air>
*DAMN* YOOoouuu..
</shaking clenched fist in air>

 

[pdsnickles]

Okay, fine; so you are telling me this won't work with ANY Netscape 7.2
browser?

Because it DID work with 7.02, on my system! That is what I am saying:
If it worked before why does it not work now?

Or are you saying they changed the page recently, and NOW it does not
work with any Netscape browser? Because I used it not over a month or
two ago and it worked with 7.02.

 

[Roland]

Okay, fine; so you are telling me this won't work with ANY Netscape 7.2
browser?

I don't know for sure that it won't work with NS7.2, ever (I don't have
NS installed), but I do know that NS7+ is based on the same code as
Mozilla and Firefox (Gecko). Since Moz/FF cannot display the MSN quote
site (due to the missing HTTP content type header), I doesn't surprise
me that NS7.2 chokes on it too. NS, however, has features that are not
found in Moz/FF (e.g. ActiveX), and therefore may behave differently
from Moz/FF on some sites.

Because it DID work with 7.02, on my system! That is what I am saying:
If it worked before why does it not work now?

It's possible that NS7.02 'behaved' more like Internet Explorer, and
somehow knew what MSN returned, despite the missing content-type header.
Maybe (still speculating) the NS7.2 release has become more strict.
However, it's also possible that the MSN site has changed, and now omits
the content-type header.

Or are you saying they changed the page recently,

Don't know, it's possible. I visited the MSN page yesterday for the
first time, so I can't tell if (and when) the site changed.

and NOW it does not
work with any Netscape browser? Because I used it not over a month or
two ago and it worked with 7.02.

As said, it's possible that (1) NS7.2 has become more strict, (2) the
MSN site has changed, (3) both (1) & (2), (4) none of the above, i.e.
some other reason.

Maybe some reader using NS7.02 could corroborate that the MSN quote site
can be displayed correctly.

If the MSN site offers support, it might be useful to contact them about
this.
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Regards,

Roland de Ruiter
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