Why this web page is so furiously fast?

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  1. Greg

    Greg Guest

    Greg, May 22, 2005
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    mscir, May 22, 2005
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  3. mscir wrote:

    > Greg wrote:
    >
    >> http://www.scientique.com/
    >> What's the trick here?

    >
    > This site analyzes web pages for speed:
    >
    > http://www.websiteoptimization.com/...


    Without even running the analyzer (which I sometimes use), I can see that
    the page is very lightweight. It did not load up instantly over here
    though. Perhaps the server is located at your country? Perhaps it was
    cached on your ISP's side? Or on your machine?

    As for the page itself, menus contain no graphics. I can only spot 4 images,
    one of which is tiny. If it makes you feel any better, I can spot a problem
    with the menus. The text doesn't fit properly and it looks rather bad.

    Roy

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    Roy Schestowitz, May 22, 2005
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  4. Greg

    dorayme Guest

    > From: Roy Schestowitz <>

    >> Greg wrote:
    >>
    >>> http://www.scientique.com/
    >>> What's the trick here?

    > I can see that
    > the page is very lightweight. It did not load up instantly over here
    > though. Perhaps the server is located at your country? Perhaps it was
    > cached on your ISP's side? Or on your machine?
    >
    > As for the page itself, menus contain no graphics. I can only spot 4 images,
    > one of which is tiny. If it makes you feel any better, I can spot a problem
    > with the menus. The text doesn't fit properly and it looks rather bad.
    >
    > Roy



    It does have more pics but in fairness to you, they can't be spotted easily.
    They would be tiny. See the code and fillers like: "<img
    src="pics/pixel.jpg" width="210" height="1" border="0">"

    It did load very quickly here in Sydney via Optus on dial up. And this is
    good. Full of tables too... tut tut eh?

    As it happened, it looked perfect on my IE but a font size change either up
    or down made it degrade, especially the menu items you mention. A rectangle
    containing all the items beside the far left one, "Menu and Information"
    detached itself into a separate rectangle... I won't go on... This is ...
    how can I put it? ...ironic? no... I dunno, I am thinking here is a design
    with tables maybe to get a lot of stability and no css hanky panky and yet
    still it mucks up!

    I think I have a growing dislike of drop down, pop out, rollover anything. I
    don't know what the cause of the design fault is, have not looked into it. I
    like it's simple layout, why the hell do people spoil their designs when
    they are so close to perfection?

    Dorayme
    dorayme, May 22, 2005
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  5. dorayme wrote:

    >> From: Roy Schestowitz <>

    >
    >>> Greg wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> http://www.scientique.com/
    >>>> What's the trick here?

    >> I can see that
    >> the page is very lightweight. It did not load up instantly over here
    >> though. Perhaps the server is located at your country? Perhaps it was
    >> cached on your ISP's side? Or on your machine?
    >>
    >> As for the page itself, menus contain no graphics. I can only spot 4
    >> images, one of which is tiny. If it makes you feel any better, I can spot
    >> a problem with the menus. The text doesn't fit properly and it looks
    >> rather bad.
    >>
    >> Roy

    >
    >
    > It does have more pics but in fairness to you, they can't be spotted
    > easily. They would be tiny. See the code and fillers like: "<img
    > src="pics/pixel.jpg" width="210" height="1" border="0">"
    >
    > It did load very quickly here in Sydney via Optus on dial up. And this is
    > good. Full of tables too... tut tut eh?
    >
    > As it happened, it looked perfect on my IE but a font size change either
    > up or down made it degrade, especially the menu items you mention. A
    > rectangle containing all the items beside the far left one, "Menu and
    > Information" detached itself into a separate rectangle... I won't go on...
    > This is ... how can I put it? ...ironic? no... I dunno, I am thinking here
    > is a design with tables maybe to get a lot of stability and no css hanky
    > panky and yet still it mucks up!
    >
    > I think I have a growing dislike of drop down, pop out, rollover anything.
    > I don't know what the cause of the design fault is, have not looked into
    > it. I like it's simple layout, why the hell do people spoil their designs
    > when they are so close to perfection?
    >
    > Dorayme


    Just to make my point a little stronger.

    -Loading of the page took 4-5 seconds on a 100 MBit Ethernet connection.

    -Look at the bad appearance of that menu (_default_ font size in FF 1.0.4.)

    http://www.schestowitz.com/temp/bad_menu.jpg

    Cells are inhomogeneous in size and text spills over to a second line and
    even disappears.

    -Let's dissect a little deeper...

    The images at the top are bad from a usability point-of-view. They are
    lifeless dummies that serve no functionality. Instead of "Back to Home
    Page" at the bottom-left (with an icon that was nicked from M$ Window$),
    wouldn't it be nice to return to site index using the images at the top? It
    also complies with the norm, i.e. the expectancy of the visitors.

    Roy

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    Roy Schestowitz, May 22, 2005
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    JDS, May 25, 2005
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