Windows Coder Needed

Discussion in 'C Programming' started by need.a.codemaster@gmail.com, Jul 17, 2006.

  1. Guest

    For a client of ours we are searching someone with the following
    knowledge

    Windows
    Virusscanners
    Spyware tools

    We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
    example changes the results from searchengines.

    People download this in trade for services from our side. So we DO NOT
    need scripts that automatically install applications, or the
    application.

    You can get payed on a project base or an hour base.

    We pay good money, you make good software. Also we would like you to
    keep updating this tool (and get payed ofcourse) if possible.

    You can contact us trough



    Thanx!

    And ps. If your name is Neo of Tr!n!ty of H@ckz0r..... please don't
    waste your and our time ;)
     
    , Jul 17, 2006
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  2. * spammed in [comp.lang.c]:
    > For a client of ours we are searching someone with the following
    > knowledge
    >
    > Windows
    > Virusscanners
    > Spyware tools
    >
    > We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
    > example changes the results from searchengines.


    Malware, in other words.


    > People download this in trade for services from our side. So we DO NOT
    > need scripts that automatically install applications, or the
    > application.
    >
    > You can get payed on a project base or an hour base.
    >
    > We pay good money, you make good software. Also we would like you to
    > keep updating this tool (and get payed ofcourse) if possible.
    >
    > You can contact us trough
    >
    >
    >
    > Thanx!


    CC:

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    A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
    Q: Why is it such a bad thing?
    A: Top-posting.
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    Alf P. Steinbach, Jul 17, 2006
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  3. Tom St Denis Guest

    Alf P. Steinbach wrote:
    > > We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
    > > example changes the results from searchengines.

    >
    > Malware, in other words.


    Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd just
    modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...

    Tom
     
    Tom St Denis, Jul 17, 2006
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  4. Tom St Denis Guest

    Gernot Frisch wrote:
    > >> > We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
    > >> > example changes the results from searchengines.
    > >>
    > >> Malware, in other words.

    > >
    > > Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd
    > > just
    > > modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...

    >
    > Right. Best would you you give them a few hints on ho to do that and
    > what to pay attention to, so it'll spread wider than the original.
    > Tomorrow we're all busy visiting our stupid friends who opened the
    > "your_message.pif" for the 1000th time.


    I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.

    I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day off.
    :)

    Tom
     
    Tom St Denis, Jul 17, 2006
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  5. >> > We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
    >> > example changes the results from searchengines.

    >>
    >> Malware, in other words.

    >
    > Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd
    > just
    > modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...


    Right. Best would you you give them a few hints on ho to do that and
    what to pay attention to, so it'll spread wider than the original.
    Tomorrow we're all busy visiting our stupid friends who opened the
    "your_message.pif" for the 1000th time.
     
    Gernot Frisch, Jul 17, 2006
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  6. Tom St Denis wrote:
    > Gernot Frisch wrote:
    > > >> > We need a windows application that runs in the background and for
    > > >> > example changes the results from searchengines.
    > > >>
    > > >> Malware, in other words.
    > > >
    > > > Sounds like the "CoolWebSearch" virus. If they were smart they'd
    > > > just
    > > > modify that instead of writing a virus from scratch...

    > >
    > > Right. Best would you you give them a few hints on ho to do that and
    > > what to pay attention to, so it'll spread wider than the original.
    > > Tomorrow we're all busy visiting our stupid friends who opened the
    > > "your_message.pif" for the 1000th time.

    >
    > I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
    >
    > I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day off.
    > :)


    You're afraid of being a root user?
     
    lovecreatesbeauty, Jul 17, 2006
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  7. lovecreatesbeauty said:

    > Tom St Denis wrote:

    <snip>
    >>
    >> I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
    >>
    >> I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day off.
    >> :)

    >
    > You're afraid of being a root user?


    No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to use the
    root account except when you really, really have to.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
    http://www.cpax.org.uk
    email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)
     
    Richard Heathfield, Jul 17, 2006
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  8. "Richard Heathfield" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    news:...
    > lovecreatesbeauty said:
    >
    >> Tom St Denis wrote:

    > <snip>
    >>>
    >>> I run Gentoo Linux as a non-root user.
    >>>
    >>> I only use Windows for work where a virus is basically a free day
    >>> off.
    >>> :)

    >>
    >> You're afraid of being a root user?

    >
    > No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to
    > use the
    > root account except when you really, really have to.


    Which is almost every minute on Windows....
     
    Gernot Frisch, Jul 17, 2006
    #8
  9. In article <>, "Gernot Frisch" <> writes:
    >
    > "Richard Heathfield" <> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
    > news:...
    > >
    > > No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to
    > > use the root account except when you really, really have to.

    >
    > Which is almost every minute on Windows....


    Nonsense. I've been developing software professionally on Windows,
    using a non-administrative account for nearly everything I do, since
    NT 4.0 was released. People who do everything on Windows using an
    administrative account simply haven't bothered to learn how to use
    the OS.

    Prior to the introduction of the "runas" command, it was useful to
    have something like Microsoft Services for Unix installed, so that
    you had some equivalent to Unix's "su" and could run individual
    commands with a different user's authority. Now that capability is
    included with the base OS, and there is no excuse for working as an
    administrative user where it's not necessary.

    I frequently hear that "some applications, such as Microsoft Office,
    don't work if you're not an administrator". I use MS Office - I
    loathe it, but it's a company standard - every day, and I have never
    had it refuse to do what I needed it to do simply because I was using
    a non-administrative account. Because it's full of bugs and
    generally brain-dead, yes, but not because I'm not running it as an
    administrator.

    Windows has many problems, but this is not one of them.

    --
    Michael Wojcik

    Ten or ten thousand, does it much signify, Helen, how we
    date fantasmal events, London or Troy? -- Basil Bunting
     
    Michael Wojcik, Jul 17, 2006
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  10. >> > No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is
    >> > to
    >> > use the root account except when you really, really have to.

    >>
    >> Which is almost every minute on Windows....

    >
    > Nonsense. I've been developing software professionally on Windows,
    > using a non-administrative account for nearly everything I do, since
    > NT 4.0 was released. People who do everything on Windows using an
    > administrative account simply haven't bothered to learn how to use
    > the OS.
    >
    > Prior to the introduction of the "runas" command, it was useful to
    > have something like Microsoft Services for Unix installed, so that
    > you had some equivalent to Unix's "su" and could run individual
    > commands with a different user's authority. Now that capability is
    > included with the base OS, and there is no excuse for working as an
    > administrative user where it's not necessary.
    >
    > I frequently hear that "some applications, such as Microsoft Office,
    > don't work if you're not an administrator". I use MS Office - I
    > loathe it, but it's a company standard - every day, and I have never
    > had it refuse to do what I needed it to do simply because I was
    > using
    > a non-administrative account. Because it's full of bugs and
    > generally brain-dead, yes, but not because I'm not running it as an
    > administrator.
    >
    > Windows has many problems, but this is not one of them.
    >


    It's not a windows problem. It's the problem of specialist in any area
    but programming, who write a good program (good functionality - bad
    coding and GUI) that refuse to work as non-admin. Most common mistakes
    are:
    -write files (temporarily) to the program's directory
    -store information in an .ini file (in program or windows directory)
    -write to HKLM instead of HKCU
    ....

    There's no problem with Windows these days - it's the coding style of
    old school programmers. With Vista a lot will change - at least they
    say so...

    -G.
     
    Gernot Frisch, Jul 18, 2006
    #10
  11. In article <>, "Gernot Frisch" <> writes:

    Please don't remove attribution lines for quoted material.

    >
    > >> > No. He's bright enough to realise how astoundingly stupid it is to
    > >> > use the root account except when you really, really have to.
    > >>
    > >> Which is almost every minute on Windows....

    > >
    > > Nonsense. I've been developing software professionally on Windows,
    > > using a non-administrative account for nearly everything I do, since
    > > NT 4.0 was released. ...
    > >
    > > Windows has many problems, but this is not one of them.

    >
    > It's not a windows problem. It's the problem of specialist in any area
    > but programming, who write a good program (good functionality - bad
    > coding and GUI) that refuse to work as non-admin.


    I have never encountered this problem, in all of my years of using
    Windows (which long preceed the introduction of any security
    mechanisms in Windows, by the way). That is, I have never seen a
    "good" (qua useful) Windows application that could not be run by a
    non-administrative user, except for utilities which performed
    administrative actions (and so correctly required administrative
    privilege).

    I have rarely encountered bad Windows applications that thought they
    required administrative privilege, but in most cases that could be
    worked around; and in the remaining cases they weren't worth using
    anyway.

    > Most common mistakes are:
    > -write files (temporarily) to the program's directory


    If the application is useful, set a less-restrictive ACL on the
    directory and more-restrictive ones on the program files.

    > -store information in an .ini file (in program or windows directory)


    Set a less-restrictive ACL on the .ini file.

    > -write to HKLM instead of HKCU


    Set a less-restrictive ACL on the registry key, if it's private to
    the program. If it's used by other software, then yes, this can be
    a problem - but as I said, I've *never* seen it in any useful
    software, which makes me wonder how "common" it is.

    This is the whole purpose of ACLs - fine-grained access control.

    > There's no problem with Windows these days - it's the coding style of
    > old school programmers.


    Certainly, that is a problem.

    --
    Michael Wojcik

    _
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    | _______ d(cabin) = log cabin + c = houseboat
    | (cabin)
    _| -- Thomas Pynchon
     
    Michael Wojcik, Jul 18, 2006
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