word documents to html?

[West]

What is the recommended software to convert Word documents to "bloat-free"
Html?

(I've done a Google search for "convert word doc to html", and am surprised
at the high cost of software like "Wordcleaner" and "EasyPro" etc. I imagine
there are other solutions?!)

 

[kayodeok]

(I've done a Google search for "convert word doc to html", and
am surprised at the high cost of software like "Wordcleaner" and
"EasyPro" etc. I imagine there are other solutions?!)

Do a google groups search and limit it to
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html.

This is an often asked question in that group (the solutions are free
of course).

 

[Toby A Inkster]

(I've done a Google search for "convert word doc to html", and am surprised
at the high cost of software like "Wordcleaner" and "EasyPro" etc. I imagine
there are other solutions?!)

Just use Word's "Save As HTML" feature and then use HTML Tidy
<URL:http://tidy.sourceforge.net/> to clean up Word's exported mess.

Alternatively look into OpenOffice.org's HTML export feature which is
nicer than Word's, and OpenOffice.org can open most Word files fine.

Or wvWare. Although the project homepage <URL:http://wvware.sourceforge.net/>
looks a bit dead, it is still being developed. The latest release of wv
was in September 2003 and the 0.2.1 beta release of wv2 was in November
2003.

 

[lostinspace]

----- Original Message -----
From: "West" <>
Newsgroups: alt.html
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: word documents to html?

What is the recommended software to convert Word documents to "bloat-free"
Html?

(I've done a Google search for "convert word doc to html", and am surprised
at the high cost of software like "Wordcleaner" and "EasyPro" etc. I imagine
there are other solutions?!)

You mean besides pen and pencil ;-))

There has been a stigma in this forum and most webmasters forums on
FrontPage which has been caused by Word users creating web pages from with
Word. With that aside. . .

The best thing you can do is start from SCRATCH and create your pages
properly.
The time you spend attempting to correct Word's bloat and incompatibility is
wasted merely so you might stay committed to an inefficient product, at
least were web pages are concerned.

The sole intent of using Word to create web pages is to allow the option of
returning that Word created web page BACK into Word.
To make matters even worse, the amount of bloat that is contained also
depends on if the creator used VML (embedded images.)

It's my practice to copy and paste from Word to NOTEPAD and then in to the
another html page. You lose all the Word formatting, however you also lose
all the bloat and incompatibility.

 

[West]

----- Original Message -----
From: "West" <>
Newsgroups: alt.html
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 7:31 AM
Subject: word documents to html?



You mean besides pen and pencil ;-))

There has been a stigma in this forum and most webmasters forums on
FrontPage which has been caused by Word users creating web pages from with
Word. With that aside. . .

The best thing you can do is start from SCRATCH and create your pages
properly.
The time you spend attempting to correct Word's bloat and incompatibility is
wasted merely so you might stay committed to an inefficient product, at
least were web pages are concerned.

The sole intent of using Word to create web pages is to allow the option of
returning that Word created web page BACK into Word.
To make matters even worse, the amount of bloat that is contained also
depends on if the creator used VML (embedded images.)

Yeah, yeah, point taken -
Clients supply me text content in Word and similar apps for inclusion in
their websites, and these I need to convert to basic html!

It's my practice to copy and paste from Word to NOTEPAD and then in to the
another html page. You lose all the Word formatting, however you also lose
all the bloat and incompatibility.

No, that is not an option, I want to hold formatting as supplied!

Thanks,

 

[kayodeok]

Do a google groups search and limit it to
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html.

This is an often asked question in that group (the solutions are
free of course).

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=word+html&as_ugroup=*html*

 

[lostinspace]

----- Original Message -----
From: "West" <>
Newsgroups: alt.html
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:38 AM
Subject: Re: word documents to html?

incompatibility


Yeah, yeah, point taken -
Clients supply me text content in Word and similar apps for inclusion in
their websites, and these I need to convert to basic html!



No, that is not an option, I want to hold formatting as supplied!

Thanks,

It CANNOT be done with the excpetion of using the web pages in an intranet,
soley used by MS visitors.
Any other applicattion of Word formatting preserved in web pages presents
non-cross-compliant web pages.

microsoft.public.word.web.authoring

 

[Charter]

incompatibility


Yeah, yeah, point taken -
Clients supply me text content in Word and similar apps for inclusion in
their websites, and these I need to convert to basic html!



No, that is not an option, I want to hold formatting as supplied!

Thanks,

Dreamweaver...Has a feature just for that

Joe

 

[lostinspace]

----- Original Message -----
From: "kayodeok" <>
Newsgroups: alt.html
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: word documents to html?

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=word+html&as_ugroup=*html*

I did open the google groups link you provided. Thanks.

However, I'm willing to wager that you will NOT find a product that will
TOTALLY eliminate and make the Word pages cross-compliant. It just doesn't
exists.

I've spent the past months in the Word NG's in an attempt to make it an
issue that Word should NOT be used with or associated with any attempt at
creating web pages. I do appear to be making some progress )

It is urgent that you understand the typical Word user :-(
Most use Word for nearly everything. They believe that Word and MS are all
that exists.
Can you imagine somebody inclined to open a web page for viewing in Word?
I nearly vomited when I read that and yet it is nearly impossible to
convince these Word users that such things are improper use of the product.

They want their web pages fast and easy regardless of the consequences or
incompatibilities and are unwilling to see anything beyond the scope of Word
:-(
Hell! Most of them even disregard the cautions inserted into the Word Help
files concerning Word created web pages. They just believe Word can do
anything :-(

 

[lostinspace]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Charter" <>
Newsgroups: alt.html
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: word documents to html?

Dreamweaver...Has a feature just for that

Joe

Joe, Joe.

Do you not read the insights provided here by the purists?
Why replace one lame product (at least as far as creating web pages,) with
another lame product.

Have you not read the of incompatability of DW?

Golly gee. . .next we''ll be advising misguided Word users to use Adobe Go
Live in an attempt to make their improperly created Word pages compliant
;-)))

 

[kayodeok]

It is urgent that you understand the typical Word user :-(
Most use Word for nearly everything. They believe that Word and
MS are all that exists.
Can you imagine somebody inclined to open a web page for viewing
in Word? I nearly vomited when I read that and yet it is nearly
impossible to convince these Word users that such things are
improper use of the product.

They want their web pages fast and easy regardless of the
consequences or incompatibilities and are unwilling to see
anything beyond the scope of Word
:-(
Hell! Most of them even disregard the cautions inserted into the
Word Help files concerning Word created web pages. They just
believe Word can do anything :-(

I understand your pain, I manage the Finance Intranet at work, by
"manage", I mean that there are many content providers but I am
responsible for the look which is hard enough until I found out that
my superiors have been telling the other content providers to just
save the Word/Excel File as html and be done with it.

Which is OK since it is an Intranet environment and I cannot
countermand my superiors, but inevitably, somebody attempts to modify
the html outputted by either Word/Excel because the presentation
"does not look right", gets it wrong and then asks for my help!

Which is OK since it is my job except that I cannot read the html
outputted by either Excel/Word and I cannot convince the content
providers/my superiors that the output I am staring at is not html!

These days, we use a content management system so I no longer have
this problem.

 

[Richard]

What is the recommended software to convert Word documents to
"bloat-free" Html?

(I've done a Google search for "convert word doc to html", and am
surprised at the high cost of software like "Wordcleaner" and "EasyPro"
etc. I imagine there are other solutions?!)

Use a straight forward text device such as notepad.
Save the document as "index.html" and include the quotes.

 

[Bob]

MS has a "compact HTML" filter you can install to save without all
the MS garbage. You still have cleaning to do after that but it is
much cleaner. It's free at their site.

 

[jeb]

MS has a "compact HTML" filter you can install to save without all
the MS garbage. You still have cleaning to do after that but it is
much cleaner. It's free at their site.

The MS HTML Filter v2.0 works on Word 2000 and older. It does not work
on OfficeXP (i.e., Word 2002 or 2003).

You may also want to look at something called PureText which coverts
sections of the Word document that you have copied to the clipboard
into plain ASCII text.

jeb

John E. Brandt
Augusta, Maine

(e-mail address removed) (remove nospam)
www.jebswebs.com

 

[Mark Parnell]

The MS HTML Filter v2.0 works on Word 2000 and older. It does not work
on OfficeXP (i.e., Word 2002 or 2003).

Does here (Word 2002).

 

[Toby A Inkster]

wrote:

You may also want to look at something called PureText which coverts
sections of the Word document that you have copied to the clipboard
into plain ASCII text.

You mean like pasting into Notepad does. ;-)

 

[Bob]

You mean like pasting into Notepad does. ;-)

Sometimes with Word2K+ you end up with MS's horrid XML/VML based
format when you just dump it into notepad. I forget the conditions
under which this occurs but I used to it as a demo of where/how
MS was going with Office/FP/Intranet integration starting with
Office 2K.