yahoo server generated code /won't validate

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shawn modersohn

The subject line is about the best I could come up with as a description
to this little problem.

Apparently my web hosting company (sbcyahoo) and whatever server they
host their crap on likes to generate the following code after the
</html> tag.

<!-- text below generated by server. PLEASE REMOVE --><!--
Counter/Statistics data collection code --><script language="JavaScript"
src="http://hostingprod.com/js_source/geov2.js"></script><script
language="javascript">geovisit();</script><noscript><img
src="http://visit.webhosting.yahoo.com/visit.gif?us1124152086"
alt="setstats" border="0" width="1" height="1"></noscript>
<IMG SRC="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=76001405&t=1124152086" ALT=1
WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>

Which sucks because I would like to claim that my page is valid xhtml
strict but nothing about that little snippet is valid anything.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on other than lesson learned
don't host with sbcyahoo. Short of anything else I am going to write a
a snippet of my own javascript to delete anything after </html>. It
won't be valid on initial load but just for principles sake it might
make me feel better. I wrote an email to some support person somewhere
but I doubt that is going to help. You can take a look for yourself at
www.shawnmodersohn.com

Thanks
 
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shawn modersohn

shawn said:
The subject line is about the best I could come up with as a description
to this little problem.

Apparently my web hosting company (sbcyahoo) and whatever server they
host their crap on likes to generate the following code after the
</html> tag.

<!-- text below generated by server. PLEASE REMOVE --><!--
Counter/Statistics data collection code --><script language="JavaScript"
src="http://hostingprod.com/js_source/geov2.js"></script><script
language="javascript">geovisit();</script><noscript><img
src="http://visit.webhosting.yahoo.com/visit.gif?us1124152086"
alt="setstats" border="0" width="1" height="1"></noscript>
<IMG SRC="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=76001405&t=1124152086" ALT=1
WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>

Which sucks because I would like to claim that my page is valid xhtml
strict but nothing about that little snippet is valid anything.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on other than lesson learned
don't host with sbcyahoo. Short of anything else I am going to write a
a snippet of my own javascript to delete anything after </html>. It
won't be valid on initial load but just for principles sake it might
make me feel better. I wrote an email to some support person somewhere
but I doubt that is going to help. You can take a look for yourself at
www.shawnmodersohn.com

Thanks

I hate answering my own questions but anyways. The problem as I
suspected was with a site counter generated by sbcyahoo servers. After
some furious clicking through the webhosting management sections I was
able to turn this "feature" off.
 
R

Roy Schestowitz

shawn said:
The subject line is about the best I could come up with as a description
to this little problem.

Apparently my web hosting company (sbcyahoo) and whatever server they
host their crap on likes to generate the following code after the
</html> tag.

<!-- text below generated by server. PLEASE REMOVE --><!--
Counter/Statistics data collection code --><script language="JavaScript"
src="http://hostingprod.com/js_source/geov2.js"></script><script
language="javascript">geovisit();</script><noscript><img
src="http://visit.webhosting.yahoo.com/visit.gif?us1124152086"
alt="setstats" border="0" width="1" height="1"></noscript>
<IMG SRC="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=76001405&t=1124152086" ALT=1
WIDTH=1 HEIGHT=1>

Which sucks because I would like to claim that my page is valid xhtml
strict but nothing about that little snippet is valid anything.


Do you get free hosting from Yahoo? If so, I doubt they will do much on the
matter. Perhaps you can convince the support layer to push people up above
to remove their spyware snippets or at least make it all valid.

When Yahoo took over Geocities several years back, they got my homepage too
and embedded nasty JavaScript in it. It pissed me off. One wonders if they
will do the same to Flickr.

Does anyone have any idea what is going on other than lesson learned
don't host with sbcyahoo. Short of anything else I am going to write a
a snippet of my own javascript to delete anything after </html>. It
won't be valid on initial load but just for principles sake it might
make me feel better.


I'm behind you, but you might want to tell your hosts about it too. It would
give them a reason to do something on the matter.

I wrote an email to some support person somewhere
but I doubt that is going to help. You can take a look for yourself at
www.shawnmodersohn.com

Thanks

Depending on the terms and conditions of the service, you might get some
quote of a paragraph which permits them to do what they do.

Roy
 
N

Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, shawn modersohn quothed:
I hate answering my own questions but anyways. The problem as I
suspected was with a site counter generated by sbcyahoo servers. After
some furious clicking through the webhosting management sections I was
able to turn this "feature" off.

Ha, yeah, I had the same problem awhile back. Did the feedback/service-
messages thing and told them to turn it off. They did.
 
S

shawn modersohn

Neredbojias said:
With neither quill nor qualm, shawn modersohn quothed:




Ha, yeah, I had the same problem awhile back. Did the feedback/service-
messages thing and told them to turn it off. They did.

Actually, I just got an email back from their support. They informed me
that there is no way to turn the server generated code off and they
don't have a date as to when it will possible to do this. Funny thing
is that I could swear I already turned it off. Maybe I'm crazy and
think that the view source option in my browser represents the actual
source, but I don't see it. It seemed personal like an actual hand
written email too. Every time I have called their support whether for
myself or a customer they are nice enough on the phone, so its kind of
hard to complain, but the long silences that ensue after throwing big
words like xml around is getting kind of annoying.

http://www.shawnmodersohn.com
 
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Roy Schestowitz

shawn said:
Actually, I just got an email back from their support. They informed me
that there is no way to turn the server generated code off and they
don't have a date as to when it will possible to do this. Funny thing
is that I could swear I already turned it off. Maybe I'm crazy and
think that the view source option in my browser represents the actual
source, but I don't see it. It seemed personal like an actual hand
written email too. Every time I have called their support whether for
myself or a customer they are nice enough on the phone, so its kind of
hard to complain, but the long silences that ensue after throwing big
words like xml around is getting kind of annoying.

An answer from Yahoo?!?! I sometimes think that the only employees at these
large companies are cron jobs. Something along the lines of:

===

Dear mr daniel smith ,

If you are enquiring with regards to hosting payments, see:

http://example.com/FAQ#payment...

....

....

We wish you enjoy our service,

Kind regards,

Process 6949 pts/3 00:00:00 bash
 
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Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, shawn modersohn quothed:
Actually, I just got an email back from their support. They informed me
that there is no way to turn the server generated code off and they
don't have a date as to when it will possible to do this. Funny thing
is that I could swear I already turned it off. Maybe I'm crazy and
think that the view source option in my browser represents the actual
source, but I don't see it. It seemed personal like an actual hand
written email too. Every time I have called their support whether for
myself or a customer they are nice enough on the phone, so its kind of
hard to complain, but the long silences that ensue after throwing big
words like xml around is getting kind of annoying.

http://www.shawnmodersohn.com

Hmm, that's interesting. I've only had 2 encounters with their
supporters: the problem you mentioned and I, uh, sorta misplaced my
Captain Midnight-level password. Unfortunately, I don't have the
relevant correspondence anymore (new computer) and I probably did have
to turn off the counter in the website manager gizmo, but the appended
text went away.

Here's something. For the first couple of months, the foreign text
still appeared when the page first loaded (in "view source") but
disappeared (upon full load, I guess) and didn't cause the spacing
problems I was experiencing before. After that, the text stopped
appearing completely. Of course, I was using mostly php pages in them
days so maybe that had something to do with it.

Anyway, that's all I know so best of luck.
 
L

Leonard Blaisdell

Neredbojias said:
Hmm, that's interesting. I've only had 2 encounters with their
supporters: the problem you mentioned and I, uh, sorta misplaced my
Captain Midnight-level password.

Captain Midnight? Ovaltine? Bless my greatest hero! You're dating
yourself.

leo
 
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Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, Leonard Blaisdell quothed:
Captain Midnight? Ovaltine? Bless my greatest hero! You're dating
yourself.

leo

Hey, I even (vaguely) remember Captain Video (-and, of course, 'His
Video Rangers')! But this obviously is a case of an old fart calling an
old fart old. Still, despite our gratuitous mutual anachronistic
reminiscences (-aka. 'mar'), these young whippersnappers who comprise
the majority of balderdash-blabbers on alt.html could learn something
from the pre-Bozo generation.
 
B

Blinky the Shark

Neredbojias said:
With neither quill nor qualm, Leonard Blaisdell quothed:

Ooo! Captain Midnight and his sidekick Ichabod Mudd![1] :)
Hey, I even (vaguely) remember Captain Video (-and, of course, 'His
Video Rangers')! But this obviously is a case of an old fart calling
an old fart old. Still, despite our gratuitous mutual anachronistic
reminiscences (-aka. 'mar'), these young whippersnappers who comprise
the majority of balderdash-blabbers on alt.html could learn something
from the pre-Bozo generation.

Hey, I shot Bozo. No, seriously -- Bozo was a franchise, and I was,
among other roles there, a cameraman at the station in my city that did
the local Bozo show. :)

[1]Trivia Guess: Sid Melton played Mudd. <clickety> Right! What do I
win?[2]

[2]But can I remember who played Captain Midnight? Noooooo! :)
 
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Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, Blinky the Shark quothed:
Hey, I shot Bozo. No, seriously -- Bozo was a franchise, and I was,
among other roles there, a cameraman at the station in my city that did
the local Bozo show. :)

[1]Trivia Guess: Sid Melton played Mudd. <clickety> Right! What do I
win?[2]

You have a better memory than I do.
[2]But can I remember who played Captain Midnight? Noooooo! :)

I don't think I ever did know, but surely he went on to even greater
fame and fortune in the soaps. :)
 
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Blinky the Shark

Neredbojias said:
With neither quill nor qualm, Blinky the Shark quothed:
Hey, I shot Bozo. No, seriously -- Bozo was a franchise, and I was,
among other roles there, a cameraman at the station in my city that
did the local Bozo show. :)

[1]Trivia Guess: Sid Melton played Mudd. <clickety> Right! What do
I win?[2]

You have a better memory than I do.
[2]But can I remember who played Captain Midnight? Noooooo! :)

I don't think I ever did know, but surely he went on to even greater
fame and fortune in the soaps. :)

I did not know that.

<clickety>

Richard Webb

IMDB doesn't show him doing any soaps as a regular, albeit his list of
guest (nonregular characters) appearances on TV is long. "Captain
Midnight" seems to have been his only recurring TV role.

"He committed suicide [in 1993, at 77] after suffering a long-term,
debilitating respiratory illness."

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0916253/
 
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Neredbojias

With neither quill nor qualm, Blinky the Shark quothed:
Neredbojias said:
With neither quill nor qualm, Blinky the Shark quothed:
Hey, I shot Bozo. No, seriously -- Bozo was a franchise, and I was,
among other roles there, a cameraman at the station in my city that
did the local Bozo show. :)

[1]Trivia Guess: Sid Melton played Mudd. <clickety> Right! What do
I win?[2]

You have a better memory than I do.
[2]But can I remember who played Captain Midnight? Noooooo! :)

I don't think I ever did know, but surely he went on to even greater
fame and fortune in the soaps. :)

I did not know that.

I was being facetious.
<clickety>

Richard Webb

Hmm, yeah, I *have* heard that name before. Never knew he was Captain
Midnight; just assumed he played a duck or something in a Disney movie.
IMDB doesn't show him doing any soaps as a regular, albeit his list of
guest (nonregular characters) appearances on TV is long. "Captain
Midnight" seems to have been his only recurring TV role.

"He committed suicide [in 1993, at 77] after suffering a long-term,
debilitating respiratory illness."

Alas, all the great ones seem to go that way. Look at Superman (-the
first.) How an actor who has an unforgettable character indelibly
linked to his persona can throw away all that fame and fortune for the
questionable nirvana of oblivion is beyond me.
 

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