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Message: [QUOTE="DannyB, post: 1865399"] I believe this issue is known - I haven't found a way around it. ZoneAlarm seems to be stopping IDLE from running. I get two errors: "Socket Error: Connection refused" and "IDLE's subprocess didn'tt make connection. Either IDLE can't start a subprocess or personal firewall software is blocking the connection." I know they are both due to ZA - I've set up ZA to allow Python to access the internet w/o prompting me (even though I now it doesn't actually access the internet.) This usually happens after I create a script and run it in the GUI - if the script ends up being a never ending loop - I X out of IDLE to stop it. The next time I try to run a script I get the errors until I reboot the computer. IIs there a fix? I'm pretty sure that this problem started with 2.3.1 (i'm suing 2.4.2). Thanks Dan [/QUOTE]