A Revolutionary New Way To Program

[DevNetAdmin]

Imagine a network of developers. A network of programmers, web
designers, gamers and others working together on common goals. A
network working with tremendous speed and efficiency on projects. A
network where your ideas can become realities. A network that will
redefine teamwork. A network that will prove that "WE" is better than
" I". This network is DevNet, DeWEloper's Network

DevNet is truly a revolutionary approach to programming. Rather than
using the existing system for group programming (in which users host a
project, ask around for "help", set up a small team and then toil
laboriously for months) we are using a new system. A system where one
large team works on a just few projects at a time. This allows for all
the hassle of coming up with a team and also allows for projects to be
finished with extreme speed and efficiency. According to Metcalfe's
law, the combined value of a network, to everyone in it, is
proportional to the square of the number of participants. In order for
our network to be of any value to developers, we need members. Whether
you are a beginner, an expert or even a person who's never even heard
of programming, you can still help out. Come join this revolutionary
network at http://www.devnet.tk or http://devnetforum.forumer.com

 

[Christian]

law, the combined value of a network, to everyone in it, is
proportional to the square of the number of participants. In order for

the problem is that the work done is rather logarithmic or squareroot of
the number of participants

 

[Greg R. Broderick]

[posted and mailed]

Imagine a network of developers. A network of programmers, web

[drivelectomy]


Cool! Can we go over there and spam your web boards the same way that you're
spamming our news groups?


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[Lew]

the problem is that the work done is rather logarithmic or squareroot of
the number of participants

The other problem is that the complexity of managing a team on a peer-to-peer
basis increases geometrically with team size.

I do not know the degree, but communication latency between team members
becomes an issue with large team sizes.

And a large team built by spammers?

 

[Lew]

[posted and mailed]

Imagine a network of developers. A network of programmers, web

[drivelectomy]


Cool! Can we go over there and spam your web boards the same way that you're
spamming our news groups?

Too bad the only way these uncool spammers will see our wrath is if we emailed
them directly, which you should not do.

 

[Patricia Shanahan]

[posted and mailed]

Imagine a network of developers. A network of programmers, web

[drivelectomy]


Cool! Can we go over there and spam your web boards the same way that
you're spamming our news groups?

Too bad the only way these uncool spammers will see our wrath is if we
emailed them directly, which you should not do.

We can still contemplate the delightful idea of a software engineering
project organized by spammers. Presumably, the only mailing list is the
whole organization, and everyone spends most of their time reading all
their e-mail.

Patricia

 

[DevNetAdmin]

I agree that posting this here was not the best of things to do, but
tell me one way in which i can get the word around without posting it
at a site or emailing people (a way that does not involve paid
advertising plz). How else are people supposed to get informed of new
ideas???? Give me something and ill stop. I agree that spamming is
bad, and im not the kind to spam. I dont multiple post at the same
group or even keep bothering people about the site. All i want to do
is just get the word around. Right now, all i can do is email people
that would seem interesting about the site, but that too is considered
a type of spam. So somebody plzzzz tell me what im supposed to do!!!!


p.s. yes, there is a place in my site where people can come and
advertise(not "pam") their site free of charge. Its called devads,
check it out if you are intrested.

 

[RedGrittyBrick]

I agree that posting this here was not the best of things to do, but
tell me one way in which i can get the word around without posting it
at a site or emailing people (a way that does not involve paid
advertising plz). How else are people supposed to get informed of new
ideas???? Give me something and ill stop. I agree that spamming is
bad, and im not the kind to spam. I dont multiple post at the same
group or even keep bothering people about the site. All i want to do
is just get the word around. Right now, all i can do is email people
that would seem interesting about the site, but that too is considered
a type of spam. So somebody plzzzz tell me what im supposed to do!!!!

You might think about how SourceForge, Flickr, MySpace, Blogger and
other hugely popular sites got themselves bootstrapped into existence.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't by deluging newsgroups with adverts.

I imagine many of the ones that succeed put together a business plan,
take it to a VC, obtain funding and spend money on traditional marketing
activities - develop a beta product, pay people to use it and give
feedback, send press releases to journalists, etc etc.

You'd do well to leverage your contacts and put together a high powered
team ready to take on the first projects and get your scheme off the
ground - offer them a cut of any future ad revenue, shares, whatever.

You might hang around in suitable newsgroups and whenever someone asks
"hey how can I get a team of people to work on this development project
I want to start" you could mention your site in a one line reply,
together with a one line disclaimer about your vested interest. You'll
probably still cause some irritation.

If your site has any merit then within a short time you won't need to
actively promote it, word will be spread by the users.

If current users aren't spreading the word about your site, there's
probably a message there for you. Some horses die and no amount of
flogging will revive them.

Your site looks like an empty chat-room. Dozens, perhaps hundreds of
such things have been inappropriately promoted in newsgroups like this,
most of them have a bit more seed material (even if it is usually ripped
off other websites). I assume they all quietly die soon after.

Sorry to rain on your parade.

 

[a24900]

I agree that posting this here was not the best of things to do, but
tell me one way in which i can get the word around without posting it
at a site or emailing people (a way that does not involve paid
advertising plz).

There are trusted and tried methods since a few thousand years. Get a
job, borrow money, sell something.

How else are people supposed to get informed of new
ideas????

New ideas? What new ideas? You can't even express your alleged ideas
in a coherent way. Are you sure you even have an idea? What I see are
ramblings about six freaks with a website who haven't the slightest
clue what they are doing, can't write a straight sentence to explain
their idea, and can't reflect if that idea makes any sense at all.

Give me something and ill stop.

What a great strategy. Threatening us to buy into your idea or else
you'll continue to spam will sure win people.

I agree that spamming is bad, and im not the kind to spam.

There is no good or bad spam. Spam is bad, and spammers are assholes.
Period. Every spammer claims his spam is not spam, but spam is about
consent, not content (look up the words in a dictionary).

I dont multiple post at the same group

Spam is about consent. You don't have it.

or even keep bothering people about the site.

You do. You came back, even threatening us with more spam if we don't
follow you.

All i want to do is just get the word around.

We don't care.

So somebody plzzzz tell me what im supposed to do!!!!

What about starting to think? What about dropping the cheap make-money-
fast attitude?

I would have suggested a number of simple things, but I don't think
you are capable of understanding them. And anyhow, you are a spammer,
so why should anyone here care about you?

p.s. yes, there is a place in my site where people can come and
advertise(not "pam") their site free of charge. Its called devads,
check it out if you are intrested.

An advertiser must be mad if voluntarily associating with a spammer by
placing ads on a spammer's site.

 

[Daniel Dyer]

You might think about how SourceForge, Flickr, MySpace, Blogger and
other hugely popular sites got themselves bootstrapped into existence.
I'm pretty sure it wasn't by deluging newsgroups with adverts.

One possibility is to start a blog, write articles about what you are
offering and make sure your RSS feed is picked up by appropriate
aggregators.

I imagine many of the ones that succeed put together a business plan,
take it to a VC, obtain funding and spend money on traditional marketing
activities - develop a beta product, pay people to use it and give
feedback, send press releases to journalists, etc etc.

I believe that Google AdWords can be quite cost-effective. Not that I've
ever used it.

You'd do well to leverage your contacts and put together a high powered
team ready to take on the first projects and get your scheme off the
ground - offer them a cut of any future ad revenue, shares, whatever.

You might start by signing up for LinkedIn and using that for networking
with like-minded people. Their forums ("LinkedIn Answers"), are full of
"entrepreneurs" asking these kind of questions.

You might hang around in suitable newsgroups and whenever someone asks
"hey how can I get a team of people to work on this development project
I want to start" you could mention your site in a one line reply,
together with a one line disclaimer about your vested interest. You'll
probably still cause some irritation.

This might not be in the spirit of what you are suggesting, but you don't
even need to "hang around", you can use Google Alerts to get informed
whenever a relevant phrase is posted.

Dan.

 

[Patricia Shanahan]

I agree that posting this here was not the best of things to do, but
tell me one way in which i can get the word around without posting it
at a site or emailing people (a way that does not involve paid
advertising plz). How else are people supposed to get informed of new
ideas???? Give me something and ill stop. I agree that spamming is
bad, and im not the kind to spam. I dont multiple post at the same
group or even keep bothering people about the site. All i want to do
is just get the word around. Right now, all i can do is email people
that would seem interesting about the site, but that too is considered
a type of spam. So somebody plzzzz tell me what im supposed to do!!!!

First, you need to understand that there is no inherent right to free
advertising. You need to do one of three things:

1. Find a free forum for which it is appropriate.

2. Rework your message to make it appropriate for some forum. For
example, a discussion of your approach, compared and contrasted with
prior models of software development, might be on-topic in
comp.software-eng.

3. Pay for advertising.

Trying to write something that would be appropriate e.g. for
comp.software-eng may be your best approach. Note that many commercial
development groups do use large teams, but there seems to be a limit to
the number of people who can work effectively on any one problem or
issue without coordination becoming too much of a hassle. For example,
I've worked on developments where the whole organization had dozens to
hundreds of programmers, but typically divided into small project teams.

Have you studied prior experience with large teams? Some discussion of
those issues, or even asking questions about large team experience,
might be a way to get a discussion going in an appropriate newsgroup.

You will probably get more interest, and learn more about the issues
involved, if you write one well thought out message to a single
appropriate newsgroup.

Patricia