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Message: [QUOTE="Brian Wood, post: 3972781"] Perhaps what's needed are on line compilers that output fully instantiated code which can be handled by "existing" C++ compilers. By that I mean that some changes to existing compilers would be needed, but the changes would be relatively minor. That might help in terms of getting the new version of the language out and in use. Without doing something radically different, I think the number of C++0x compilers is likely to be less than the number of C++ compilers today. I hope you live to see C++0x in general use, but at the very least, I think things will be interesting (curioser and curioser) from here on in. Brian Wood [URL]http://www.webEbenezer.net[/URL] [/QUOTE]