Chrome not running Java applets

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segalsegal

Using the release version of Google's Chrome browser on Vista, if you
go to an applet page (e.g., www.segal.org/java/Hello/) it tells you
that you need Java SE6 U10 (beta) but if you click through you get
offered 6 Update 11, which doesn't work.

Does anyone know how to get this working?
 
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Dave Miller

segalsegal said:
Using the release version of Google's Chrome browser on Vista, if you
go to an applet page (e.g., www.segal.org/java/Hello/) it tells you
that you need Java SE6 U10 (beta) but if you click through you get
offered 6 Update 11, which doesn't work.

Does anyone know how to get this working?
It seems to be local to your machine - both your applet and others work
on my XP.
 
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Lew

segalsegal said:
Using the release version of Google's Chrome browser on Vista, if you
go to an applet page (e.g., www.segal.org/java/Hello/) it tells you
that you need Java SE6 U10 (beta) but if you click through you get
offered 6 Update 11, which doesn't work.

If indeed the non-beta, more recent version of Java fails then there is a
problem either with Chrome or the applet in its version checking. One can
perhaps excuse it not working with an earlier version, but insisting on a beta
version that is months out of date and refusing to use a later, release version?

Can you give any more details about the failure beyond "doesn't work"?
 
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segalsegal

Can you give any more details about the failure beyond "doesn't work"?

After installing Java 6 Update 11 you still get the same request to
install a plug-in.

Previously I'd had the Chrome beta installed and Java applets worked
after downloading a special Java version, presumably Java SE6 U10
(beta). When installing the release version of Chrome I uninstalled
the Chrome beta first and installed the release version. I seem to
have deleted the Java SE6 U10 (beta) at some point, presumably while I
was fiddling recently with some of the Java 7 early access builds.

It looks like Java 6 Update 11 is missing something needed for Chrome
and Chrome is mistakedly pointing people towards this version.
 
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Dave Miller

segalsegal said:
After installing Java 6 Update 11 you still get the same request to
install a plug-in.

Previously I'd had the Chrome beta installed and Java applets worked
after downloading a special Java version, presumably Java SE6 U10
(beta). When installing the release version of Chrome I uninstalled
the Chrome beta first and installed the release version. I seem to
have deleted the Java SE6 U10 (beta) at some point, presumably while I
was fiddling recently with some of the Java 7 early access builds.

It looks like Java 6 Update 11 is missing something needed for Chrome
and Chrome is mistakedly pointing people towards this version.
My post to your other question was misleading - I installed _11 (not 10)
from the Java site after being sent there by the Chrome pop up. I too
got the plug-in missing pop up after installing 11 but a restart of
Chrome fixed that. Long story short, applets are running in my copy of
Chrome with the latest JRE plugin.
 
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segalsegal

My post to your other question was misleading - I installed _11 (not 10)
from the Java site after being sent there by the Chrome pop up. I too
got the plug-in missing pop up after installing 11 but a restart of
Chrome fixed that. Long story short, applets are running in my copy of
Chrome with the latest JRE plugin.

I think I figured out the problem. I looked in the Java Control Panel
and found only Java 1.7 listed for applets. I then uninstalled Java
1.7, uninstalled Java 1.6 Update 11 (it had indeed been installed),
reinstalled 1.6 update 11 and then 1.6 showed up in the Java Control
Panel and applets worked in Chrome.

So it looks like the only people who will be affected by this problem
are those who have Java 1.7 installed and try to add 1.6. It doesn't
sound worth filing a bug report, particularly since Sun hasn't fixed
any of the bugs I've filed in recent years (see http://www.segal.org/java/sun/)
and I'd rather have Sun focus their limited resources on problems that
end users will actually see.
 
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Lew

segalsegal said:
I think I figured out the problem.  I looked in the Java Control Panel
and found only Java 1.7 listed for applets.  I then uninstalled Java
1.7, uninstalled Java 1.6 Update 11 (it had indeed been installed),
reinstalled 1.6 update 11 and then 1.6 showed up in the Java Control
Panel and applets worked in Chrome.

So it looks like the only people who will be affected by this problem
are those who have Java 1.7 installed and try to add 1.6.  It doesn't
sound worth filing a bug report, particularly since Sun hasn't fixed
any of the bugs I've filed in recent years (seehttp://www.segal.org/java/sun/)
and I'd rather have Sun focus their limited resources on problems that
end users will actually see.

Java 7 is not released yet, which may bear on the situation you
experienced. It's also a later version than Java 6. Perhaps
installing an older version of Java on Windows than one already in
place is intended not to replace the later version's associations. I
suspect that installing a newer version would replace the older
version's associations. If true, this would normally be desirable
behavior. I seem to recall that Windows JRE installers ask if you
wish to associate the particular version with your browsers.

What you experienced might not be a bug at all. I would consider it a
bug if the older version *did* replace the newer one's associations
without explicit permission.
 
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segalsegal

What you experienced might not be a bug at all.  I would consider it a
bug if the older version *did* replace the newer one's associations
without explicit permission.

The behavior I would expect is that I'd still get to choose in the
Java Control Panel which JRE to use for applets, but no choice was
available. One might also expect that Java 1.7 would have the
capability to support Chrome already built in, but apparently this has
not been added yet.

Since the only people likely to be affected by this problem are
developers, they are likely to be resourceful enough to do a web
search and hopefully find this thread telling them how to deal with
the problem. If they search Google Groups this thread is already in
the top 10 results (http://groups.google.com/groups?q=java chrome).
 
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Roedy Green

Using the release version of Google's Chrome browser on Vista, if you
go to an applet page (e.g., www.segal.org/java/Hello/) it tells you
that you need Java SE6 U10 (beta) but if you click through you get
offered 6 Update 11, which doesn't work.

Does anyone know how to get this working?


Update your Chrome to 1.0.154.36 and your JDK to 1.6.0_11

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famous economist Nicholas Stern estimated at 5 to 20% of GDP
 
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lsy1206

Update your Chrome to 1.0.154.36 and your JDK to 1.6.0_11

--
Roedy Green Canadian Mind Productshttp://mindprod.com
PM Steven Harper is fixated on the costs of implementing Kyoto, estimated as high as 1% of GDP.
However, he refuses to consider the costs of not implementing Kyoto which the
famous economist Nicholas Stern estimated at 5 to 20% of GDP

it's working perfectly fine for me, running on Vista with JDK6
installed
 
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segalsegal

Update your Chrome to 1.0.154.36 and your JDK to 1.6.0_11

It seems to have been a problem due to having Java 1.7 installed,
which does not work with Chrome.
 

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