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Message: [QUOTE="JohnQ, post: 2933323"] I was pondering the technique of restricting default constructor, copy constructor, assignment operator though and its validity for structs as well as classes: class A { A(); // disallow def construction A(const A&); // disallow copy construction const A& operator=(const A&); // disallow assignment public int data_member; A(int arg) : data_member(arg) {} }; struct B { B(); // disallow def construction B(const B&); // disallow copy construction const B& operator=(const B&); // disallow assignment int data_member; // public by default B(int arg) : data_member(arg) {} }; If I disallow the stuff in struct B, it acts less like a C struct, yes? John [/QUOTE]