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Message: [QUOTE="JohnQ, post: 2935998"] Well consider what the intention of the wrapper class is: to give anything that wants a struct like the one the class wraps, a refence to the embedded struct via the defined operator. void BlastToDisk(struct A& s); // when given a StructWrapper object, i // it gets a struct A& from it I didn't mean to suggest that StructWrapper could be memcpy'd and the like just because the first data member was a struct. John [/QUOTE]