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Message: [QUOTE="Paul Boddie, post: 1748794"] Whilst I think that some of the criticism is unfair, if somewhat amusing in places, Zope does have a reputation as being a particularly difficult beast for even the most ravenous python( expert)s to swallow. In other words, it appears as a big system with lots of unfamiliar techniques in use and, at least until modern times, not that much documentation to help the uninitiated. That said, once you get down to writing components, there are some good approaches in common use which make the process both relatively easy and not so different to how you would write applications in some of the other frameworks. It sometimes seems quite fashionable to trash Zope and hype Twisted, for example, but the "maze of twisty passages" problem isn't exclusive to Zope by any means. Paul [/QUOTE]