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Message: [QUOTE="Rune Allnor, post: 3950417"] Thanks, everyone, for the input. I want constant pointers to non-constant objects in the Spider class. Once A_ and B_ have been constructed, their addresses will not change for the lifetime of the instance of BigClass. The states of all the variables will change, though. Apart from that, I am a bit confused: Is it the order of declarations of the variables in BigClass that determines the order the constructors will be called? Would something change if the BigClass constructor was called as BigClass::BigClass() : B_(), A_() ? And yes, I did type the code straight into the newsreader. Rune [/QUOTE]