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Message: [QUOTE="Chris Dollin, post: 2915472"] (fx:snip) (fx:nitpick) False. Given the expression `b() * c() + d()`, it is /exactly/ the precedence that determines that the addition is done after the multiplication (in the C abstract machine) -- because one operand of the addition is the result of the multiplication. It doesn't determine the order of those particular /operands/, of course; that doesn't matter, because of "nitpick" and-jointly "*anything*". (I share with you the idea that it's important for newbies to learn that P&A doesn't determine OOE; but your extreme wording leaves your lesson more subject to attack than a less extreme wording would. IMAO.) -- "You're not supposed to /think/ about it, /The Beiderbeck Connection/ you're supposed to say NO!" Jill Swinburn Hewlett-Packard Limited registered no: registered office: Cain Road, Bracknell, Berks RG12 1HN 690597 England [/QUOTE]