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Message: [QUOTE="billcun, post: 5029414"] There is a simple and straight foreward way to put things. Long drawn out explainations to hobbyists about macro expansion (I know nothing about) from a PhD's doctoral really don't help. I'm not a computer scientist. I see it every other response post. To my postings. Also on another note I have not seen this told to others but I have been in a hurry and mispelled simple words that are readable and been mocked and "quickley dropped from tutoring." As I said before I believe there are alot of serious programmers on this group computer scientists. Patience is not common. And the "I don't do homework" responses are to people "Given the answer" What does that mean? I don't do homework for school. I try to learn. I see alot of unreadable code that when shown to others who are patient. I've been able to grasp. , often I think everyone's in a hurry to get back to the lab and write commercial software. B [/QUOTE]